Tom Ford Updates

[mrsbaine]

Tom Ford Updates 

updated 10/16

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Holiday Soliel Collection, 2017 

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Available Now at Neiman Marcus: 

Holiday Soliel Palette: Violet Argente

 Orchid Soliel Collection:

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Available on Tom Ford Direct: 
1 lipstick: Orchid Soleil
1 Highlighter: Nightbloom- Soliel

[Ria0215]

Where is your critical thinking she first discredited Tom Ford's product for no good reason; only her personal reason she is a hypochondriac who thinks the formula gave her milia of the eye. So she makes money off the video discredits Tom Ford and then she will return them to purchase something new to use in another video and make more money.  It hurts us the consumer and it is using you the viewer. Open your eyes and your mind to what is really being done. She is like a bad infomercial but only worst.

[dolceoktober]

Excuse me?  If I had a reaction to a Mac product and found out a Tom Ford product I just bought was a near dupe to it, I absolutely would be concerned and likely return it.  I would not want to risk another reaction.  There are plenty of people who have reactions to particular ingredients, whether you believe it or not. 

Michele herself says she is not a makeup artist.  She loves luxury makeup and skincare, and she shares her thoughts about it on her YT channel.  She has a pretty good recall memory too, since she hadn't used her Mac pots in a long time.  Her reasoning is valid to her.  She shared her swatches so if you disagree with her review you at least saw a live swatch.  Go ahead and make your own decision if you wish to purchase.

As for my thoughts on this, Tom Ford himself is someone who is devoted to luxury.  The man takes several baths a day and tosses out his underwear after six months.  He lives in luxury thanks to his customer base (and of course his talent).  Everything he sells is at a luxury price point.  He can do that for luxury, then he can manage to finesse a formula to his brands own specifications instead of merely copying a formula and marking it up solely because it bears his logo.  Just my opinion.

If anyone wants to buy the products and rave about them, that's their right.  Same goes for someone who thinks they are subpar.  It's just makeup.

[Anonymous]

I happen to agree with Ria0215. I don't like Michele Wang either and also find her to be a no talent beauty youtuber just in it for the money & I also find her to be a hypochondriac. As far as Tom Ford being a luxury brand and that means he should decide on the formulation of what ingredients go into his products & he should not  use the same ingredients that are in the Mac eye Pots is ridiculous!  A lot of makeup products from different brands use the same ingredients if not the exact same ingredients in the same formulation that is Nothing New!  Tom Ford doesn't decide on the ingredients in his products he has people who do that for his company; the same people who make the products for other makeup brands.

I purchased all of the Emotionproof shadows and they are gorgeous and I like the formulation I could care less if Mac had the formulation first and if Tom Ford is using the exact or similar formulation and is charging more for it!  If I don't want to pay more for the Tom Ford product then I won't purchase it.  Most of the Mac eye pots are discontinued except for the Matte shades.  Michele Wang is all about the higher the price tag the higher it is the more she has to have it.   The reason and only reason she bad mouthed the T.F. EmotionProof shadows is she was disappointed that after all her rush to be the first to video the product and all the money she spent on them that she could not use them because she is allergic to the formulation! So she used the opportunity to try and come off like the hero and say how Tom Ford is overcharging for the same ingredients that were in the Mac pots. Michele Wang could care less that the EmotionProof shadows cost more and that they have the same ingredients as the Mac eye pots it was really bothering her that she could not use the product because she was allergic to the ingredients.  She should of just showed the swatches and said for anyone who loved the Mac Pots these EmotionProof shadows have the same formulation and they are pretty shades but they don't work for me because I get Milia from the ingredients instead she tried to come across like the shadows are no good and tom ford is ripping us off. Give me a break Ms. Wang could care less about how expensive a product cost the more expensive it is the more she loves it. Get a drugstore lotion but put it in a Sisley Paris bottle and put a high price tag on it & Ms. Wang would swear the bottle of lotion from Sisley Paris turned her skin into silk!

[Winthrop44]

@Ria0215 I really don't know why you keep calling her a hypochondriac. As someone with rosacea and very sensitive skin I can assure you people can really get skin reactions - be it milia/clogged pores, breakouts, burning/stinging, redness or something else -- from almost any topical product you can think of. I have no reason to doubt that if she says she got milia from a particular product she did. It would be like you telling me a foundation with cyclopentasiloxane doesn't burn my skin when I know it does. I'm not a hypochondriac and it doesn't mean the product is bad, or that you shouldn't use it, just that I can't use it.

[Ria0215]

Stop taking anything I say personally as if it were directed toward you. I do think she is a hypochondriac and it isn't because of her statement of getting milia from Mac eyeshadow pots it is because of past video's when I use to actually watch her and realized through watching her that I did not care for her video's or her. 

She would claim she had several different things wrong with her skin; one being an eczema break out somewhere on her face and bring the camera in close and there is NO eczema none to be found! She also said how she does the Keto diet  because it helps with her " all in her head" eczema and other conditions that I believe to be all in her head. I find her to be a total fraud, high end snob even down to what restaurants she dines at; as she say's she likes " Fine Dining" Really?

It is my opinion that she is a total hypochondriac so stop making it about you I don't know you and you are not a youtuber making money off of viewers who have the right to comment. If you like her good for you; but it won't ever stop me from voicing what I think about her or any other youtuber. 

[Winthrop44]

@Ria0215  You're doing an awful lot of assuming about me. I'm not taking anything you say personally or making anything about me. That was an analogy.  Secondly, I happen to be neutral on Michele Wang.

[Ria0215]

You are neutral about M.W. and I don't like her. I guess that is all that needs to be said. 

[Ria0215]

I agree with you totally. I ordered two of the shadows but they have not arrived as of yet. If I don't like them I will probably keep them anyway and try to make them work.  I just find her to be fake & I think the cost of the shadows doesn't bother her in the least and the fact that they have the same ingredients as the Mac paint pots doesn't disturb her either because I find her to be a brand name snob. What I think disturbs her and why she bashed Tom Ford EmotionProof shadows is she realized it had the same ingredients as Mac paint pots a product that she could not use because she believes it gave her milia on her eyes. This is what I have a problem with because I believe she did not find any other problem with these shadows except the ingredients in them would prevent her from using them. I just find her extremely fake as if I see through that facade she puts on as being so nice and down to earth. She just totally rubs me the wrong way and I find her pretentious and disingenuous. I know it is my personal opinion but I also don't find her very interesting or talented in applying makeup. Other Youtubers really love wearing makeup and you can see and feel their sincerity whether they are talented or not they are genuine in their love of makeup. With Michele Wang I see it to make money for the sake of making money but also so she can hoard all her expensive products. I don't see her wearing makeup on a daily basis or even enjoying makeup as much as making money off her video's and being able to purchase high end product.  We are there so she can make money and afford to indulge in her high end expensive obsession. I'm not along for the ride so I don't subscribe to her channel. 

[TraceyEB]

UPDATED POST

A note about formulations: If two products have exactly the same ingredients in exactly the same order, then they might be the same formulation. They could be different through changes in the amount of ingredient used but not enough to change the order of the ingredients.

@BeansCat, when I saw Michele's video, and drawing upon a conversation that and I had earlier in the day, I asked my spouse to take the ingredients of a MAC Paint Pot and a Tom Ford Emotionproof shadow and put them into a program that could compare ingredients. They were identical, meaning they had the same ingredients listed in the same order. We also input a MAC Paint Pot and a Bobbi Brown Long-Wear Cream Shadow pot (an EL brand) and, while there were ingredients in common, they were different. We compared ingredients of an Tom Ford cream shadow and a Charlotte Tilbury Eyes to Mesmerize cream shadow, and they were very similar except there's more mica in the CT formula than the TF formula compared to the other ingredients.

When looking at the current formula for TF Color for Eyes shadows, where the ingredients begin with "Cyclopentasiloxane, Water, synthetic fluorinated graphite sample logos, di phenyl trimethicone chikon, not three tilpi / p Fiji -10/1 dimethicone, H. DI / methyl tree come hexyl lactone Cross polymers, silica hydrogel jeneyi Painted palm kernel glycerides,...", the formula is different from previous TF formulas and from CT's formula.

Note: There can be variations in the ingredients from what's posted online to the ingredients printed on a product's label, so it's important to see where there are differences and where there are similarities when comparing one product to another.

[ms123456]

@TraceyEB  Very good point! I agree with you! 

[BeansCat]

Thank you. That’s informative and another way of thinking about it. You really put time and thought into it.  I still bought one so I can check it out for myself. I love Tom Form shadows and hope I can make it work and will get enjoyment out of it. 

[TraceyEB]

@BeansCatThanks for your kind words. Do let us know how you find the shadow. 🙂

[Sunnysmom]

@TraceyEB def very good and valid points. I often think of this in the various lines of a parent company. Thank your hubby! Well done! 🤗

[TraceyEB]

@SunnysmomI wish the brands were somehow more transparent. Will pass along your compliment to my spouse. He's a statistics guy, so helped with phrasing, so not to be misleading. 🙂

[blackkitty2014]

Sorry I have to bud in @TraceyEB, @Sunnysmom . It’s so great that your husband doing that for living @TraceyEB. 😀 I like stat and math ppl 😘

[Sunnysmom]

Love it @blackkitty2014 ! 🤗🤗 I like em too bec I am so terrible at it! 🤣

[TraceyEB]

@blackkitty2014, thanks! It comes in handy from time-to-time. 🙂

[Sunnysmom]

@TraceyEB Me too. And I picture it just like apparel industry with the different fabric houses etc and vendor names, stores all in a row! 😳Same stuff different label or slightly tweaked😕😖🤣! And we buy it all. 🙄 And I do too! Waa waa right?! 👏🏻to the hubs! 

[TraceyEB]

@SunnysmomHa, ha! So right! Given how quickly TF LE items come to the CCO, I should go on a no buy until it hits the outlet store. Was just there a few weeks ago and was surprised at how much TF stock there was, given the location. Even saw Nude Dip there. But I must have something new for summer, hopefully at a discount. 🙂

[Sunnysmom]

@TraceyEB you are right about them! When I get to one I am amazed at how much TF they have! And such good $ oh my. I have gotten lips, shadows etc. Thank the lord not closer or maybe I wish so bec I would save more $! 

[blackkitty2014]

Ugh! WTF Tom! Money saved I guess 😡