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Jumping into the New Year with Jazzified January 2022 Hauls
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Reply: @WhereYouStand So many fun things to play with ...read more
@WhereYouStand So many fun things to play with
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Reply: @missjeanie, I buy the things. I use them. Or try to. I occasionally take photos. I write words. Rinse. Repeat. ...read more
@missjeanie, I buy the things. I use them. Or try to. I occasionally take photos. I write words. Rinse. Repeat.
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2022 Self-Care Check-in Challenge: Try a new wellness trend and tell us all about it!
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Reply: I am consciously putting effort to remember taking supplements at bedtime and having a nice relaxing at home spa session on weeken ...read more
I am consciously putting effort to remember taking supplements at bedtime and having a nice relaxing at home spa session on weekends.
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~♥Galentine's Day Exchange 2022♥~
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Reply: Such a beautiful gift @Buootiful So many yummy treats and the tumbler is super cute @Ispend2much6 ...read more
Such a beautiful gift @Buootiful So many yummy treats and the tumbler is super cute @Ispend2much6
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Reply: I am interested in your Zendo palette. Have the following to trade: Sonia g cheek pro, Danessa Myricks mini lightworks palette 3, ...read more
I am interested in your Zendo palette. Have the following to trade: Sonia g cheek pro, Danessa Myricks mini lightworks palette 3, herbivore prism serum, Viseart Chocolat.  
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Reply: @GeorginaBT The SEPHORA COLLECTION Clean Skin Gel Cleanser with Prebiotics 4.22 oz/ 125 mL is one of my favorites too. ...read more
@GeorginaBT The SEPHORA COLLECTION Clean Skin Gel Cleanser with Prebiotics 4.22 oz/ 125 mL is one of my favorites too.
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The sexiest and most alluring scents
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Reply: Have you tried NEST New York Midnight Fleur Eau de Parfum 1.7 oz/ 50 mL Eau de Parfum Spray ? It is strong, but maybe the rollerba ...read more
Have you tried NEST New York Midnight Fleur Eau de Parfum 1.7 oz/ 50 mL Eau de Parfum Spray ? It is strong, but maybe the rollerball would be good. Or Gucci Flora Gorgeous Gardenia Eau de Parfum . Another great one to try is Viktor&Rolf Flowerbomb Nectar 1.7 oz/ 50 mL Eau de Parfum Spray Have you tried any Kilian?KILIAN Paris Straight To Heaven, White Cristal 1.7 oz/ 50 mL Eau de Parfum Spray is lovely, or the new liquors collection. Are there some scents or notes you already do or don’t like? @Graciemom
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Reply: Good idea, will check it out! @TeamBIC ...read more
Good idea, will check it out! @TeamBIC
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2022 PRODUCT RELEASES THREAD!!!
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Reply: @SportyGirly125 Lots of folks call out coconut oil as being high on the comedogenic scale. I did it too, until I wondered about t ...read more
@SportyGirly125 Lots of folks call out coconut oil as being high on the comedogenic scale. I did it too, until I wondered about the scale’s accuracy and exactly how results are determined. Of the scientific studies done to create that scale, most were performed in the '70s and ‘80s. Two studies were done in the ‘00s. Many old studies used rabbit skin (inner ear) instead of human skin. Some of the many problems with the comedogenic scale: SpoilerSome studies determined that things that clog rabbit skin won’t clog human skin. Makes sense when you realize rabbit skin is more sensitive than human skin, and comedones form much faster in rabbits than humans (2-3 weeks vs. 1-6 months). Human skin and rabbit skin don’t behave the same way. The human skin test involves applying an ingredient to a human’s back and then occluding that skin with a bandage. That’s not a real-life scenario—well wait, I guess one could argue that anti-cootie masks might act as a layer of occlusion on the middle of our faces. But that's still less occlusive than a bandage stuck directly over skin. Plus, a face mask doesn’t cover all areas where folks tend to get facial acne. The skin on your back doesn’t behave the same way as your facial skin. Yes, you can get back acne, but any medical doctor or board certified dermatologist can tell you how different your face and back are. None of these comedogenic tests are done on facial skin. Human tests have a small sample size of 10 or less subjects. That’s smaller than even some cosmetic brands’ sample sizes for skincare testing. 😂 To qualify for testing, a human test subject must have naturally large pores. So… how useful is this scale for folks with mostly smaller pores? This is one of the main reasons I started ignoring the scale altogether. My only large pores are on and around my nose, and that's not where I normally get most of my facial acne. That could be because I'm diligent about degunking those oily-zone pores with BHA—but these tests don't take exfoliation into consideration. (See last paragraph in this spoiler.) Even if an ingredient is deemed comedogenic, it can become non-comedogenic depending on what it’s mixed or diluted with in a product's formulation. In comedogenicity tests, ingredients are applied to skin at a minimum of 10% strength, which is much higher than you’d find in most skincare products that aren’t obviously 90-100% that ingredient (like petroleum jelly). One of the first studies cited petrolatum as highly comedogenic. I assume that's the study some people reference when they claim petrolatum clogs pores. But it actually doesn’t, as determined by a later study. Funny: our skin’s natural sebum is comedogenic, yet we absolutely need it. Other variables that can affect comedone formation (climate, full skincare routines including regular exfoliation, stress levels, physical activity level, age, the specific chemistry of different people's skin, etc.) aren't considered during the human tests. Those variables are also partly why the rabbit ear tests are suspect. To my knowledge, no bunnies do an AM and PM skincare routine on their ears (beyond the super adorable “prayer hands” ear cleaning they do throughout the day), and I doubt any scientists applied a routine of skincare products to test bunnies’ ears during those tests. Some studies determined that things that clog rabbit skin won’t clog human skin. Makes sense when you realize rabbit skin is more sensitive than human skin, and comedones form much faster in rabbits than humans (2-3 weeks vs. 1-6 months). Human skin and rabbit skin don’t behave the same way. The human skin test involves applying an ingredient to a human’s back and then occluding that skin with a bandage. That’s not a real-life scenario—well wait, I guess one could argue that anti-cootie masks might act as a layer of occlusion on the middle of our faces. But that's still less occlusive than a bandage stuck directly over skin. Plus, a face mask doesn’t cover all areas where folks tend to get facial acne. The skin on your back doesn’t behave the same way as your facial skin. Yes, you can get back acne, but any medical doctor or board certified dermatologist can tell you how different your face and back are. None of these comedogenic tests are done on facial skin. Human tests have a small sample size of 10 or less subjects. That’s smaller than even some cosmetic brands’ sample sizes for skincare testing. To qualify for testing, a human test subject must have naturally large pores. So… how useful is this scale for folks with mostly smaller pores? This is one of the main reasons I started ignoring the scale altogether. My only large pores are on and around my nose, and that's not where I normally get most of my facial acne. That could be because I'm diligent about degunking those oily-zone pores with BHA—but these tests don't take exfoliation into consideration. (See last paragraph in this spoiler.) Even if an ingredient is deemed comedogenic, it can become non-comedogenic depending on what it’s mixed or diluted with in a product's formulation. In comedogenicity tests, ingredients are applied to skin at a minimum of 10% strength, which is much higher than you’d find in most skincare products that aren’t obviously 90-100% that ingredient (like petroleum jelly). One of the first studies cited petrolatum as highly comedogenic. I assume that's the study some people reference when they claim petrolatum clogs pores. But it actually doesn’t, as determined by a later study. Funny: our skin’s natural sebum is comedogenic, yet we absolutely need it. Other variables that can affect comedone formation (climate, full skincare routines including regular exfoliation, stress levels, physical activity level, age, the specific chemistry of different people's skin, etc.) aren't considered during the human tests. Those variables are also partly why the rabbit ear tests are suspect. To my knowledge, no bunnies do an AM and PM skincare routine on their ears (beyond the super adorable “prayer hands” ear cleaning they do throughout the day), and I doubt any scientists applied a routine of skincare products to test bunnies’ ears during those tests. There are so many variables and issues with the comedogenic scale, I don't rely on it. Doesn’t help that the FDA doesn’t regulate the term “non-comedogenic,” so any brand can slap that label on any product regardless of what’s in it. Some people use the scale as a very high-level "hmm, could this ingredient possibly be causing my acne flares" resource, which is probably fine as long as they don't take the scale as gospel and start ditching all products that contain that ingredient without doing further reading and research. When used as a makeup remover, I doubt coconut oil’s nearly as comedogenic as the scale claims. In that scenario, coconut oil has brief contact with your skin before you rinse it off. A lot of hair products contain coconut oil, including many leave-in products, so anyone trying to avoid this ingredient should keep that in mind unless their hair never touches their face and they keep those products off their scalps. Though again, whether or not the coconut oil in those products is comedogenic depends on various things, including product formulation variables like how diluted the ingredient is and what it’s combined with.
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Thankful, Grateful, and Gracious 2022
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Reply: I am thankful that I get to spend sometime with my son shopping tomorrow and visiting some family. I noticed my son enjoys spendin ...read more
I am thankful that I get to spend sometime with my son shopping tomorrow and visiting some family. I noticed my son enjoys spending more time with me and it makes me so happy!
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