THE OTHERWORLDLY THREAD 👽✨🔮🌙

[veronika23]

I’ve wanted to start this for so long but never got around to it. Back in the day I think I had a similar thread and I wanted to bring it back.

Do you love anything out of the norm: the strange, the unusual, and the mysterious? Anything relating to the supernatural, the paranormal and mystical? Then this thread is for you! A place to discuss anything and everything about the unknown, the occult, legends and theories… anything goes!

[melanito]

I've been doing this work for about 8 years now. It's always changing and so fascinating...love it!!

[veronika23]

Wow! So cool @melanito 🙂

[jozkid]

@mermadelove I told you guys that I had several stories, some funny (the spelling bee) and some not so funny like the one I will share. Reading everyone's accounts of experiences, it seems like many of you have some that are much farther reaching than mine — like the nightmares before 9-11 that some of you had. Mine are all very personal. In any case....

I had a very serious boyfriend when I was in college. We had decided we would get engaged for our 4 year anniversary of dating. After he graduated he moved to NJ for his job (not too terribly far from me) while I was still living at home with my parents. Anyway, I was in the wedding of my best friend from high school and I was meeting her brother at the mall so we could shop for a wedding gift. I got there early and was browsing by myself in the dress dept. I saw this black belted shirtdress with white collar and cuffs and thought to myself, "That would be a nice dress for a funeral." It was such a bizarre thing to think that I actually kind of went, "Why the heck would that even cross your mind?" I tried to put it aside and got the gift for my friend.

A little while after, I ran into another high school friend with her new boyfriend. I was chatting with them and they were all huggy and stuff and I actually got teary-eyed and said, "Please don't do that. It's going to be a while before I can again." Again, a really bizarre thing to think or say. I even took note of the time — 4:20 in the afternoon. And yes, I looked at that stupid dress again on the way out.

The evening came and I was expecting a phone call from my boyfriend, so when the phone rang I picked up. It was for my Mom, though, and shortly after I could hear her crying, "Oh my God, no." And that's when she told me he'd been killed in a car accident earlier that day. The details about timing came out later and, yes, 4:20 was accurate regarding the time of the accident.

This is kind of why I think I've tried to shut myself off from these messages (?) if you will. I was so scared to have that feeling again. This was such a horrible experience of my life and affected me for so many many years. I was left very lost for so long. I didn't find real love again until I was in my late 30s when I started dating my husband. And I will admit I get horribly frightened at the thought of losing him. I never know whether it's just residual fear from the first incident, or whether I'm picking up on something else (which I pray I am not). I can only hope that God (or whatever higher power) wouldn't put me through that again.

[Smeegle]

Thank you so much for sharing this dear.

What a tremendous test for you to be put through. I am sure that he was meant to come into your life, and the lives of others, to teach you all something and bring joy to your life.

I believe that although we live in fear of being separated from our loved ones in this life, we are in God when we are separated so that we can bear it in this life, but never in the next life.

[pixiedust2]

@jozkid Thank you for sharing your story. So very sad. And I know what you mean about the weird things that just pop in your head or that you blurt out. It’s always strange when it happens, and then you look back and put the pieces together. I’m so sorry that happened to you and your boyfriend. But I’m happy you found love with your husband. 

[jozkid]

Thank you @pixiedust2. I really am blessed to have found such a wonderful husband. I guess one of the reasons I’m so fearful at the thought of losing that

[pixiedust2]

@jozkid I get it. My hubby has been with me through some very hard stuff. He’s my rock. I get scared just like you ❤️

[jozkid]

@pixiedust2 ❤️💕

[melanito]

oh wow jozkid what a story. You must be very open to receive those messages.

[jozkid]

I think not so much anymore @melanito. I think part of me is closed off now because I’m terrified of what might come through

[bakeamuffin]

Oh @jozkid ❤️❤️❤️ My heart goes out to you, I’m deeply sorry that you experienced that, it really seems cruel and unfair when stories don’t get to be finished. I’m sorry for how that ended but so happy that you later found love, thank you for sharing ❤️

[quspork]

So much love to you, @jozkid. Thank you for sharing your experience with us. 

[tsavorite]

@jozkid,

I don't think that anyone reading this could not feel empathetic and supportive for you!  Know that we are here for you!  I'm so glad that you found your husband and your  present-day life!

[Beadshopgirl]

Oh @jozkid I’m so sorry! It does sound like the universe was trying to prepare you for that awful shock. Thank you for sharing this with us. ❤️ It totally makes sense that you would be frightened of any future distressing messages. 

[mermadelove]

@jozkid My Heart goes out to you, darling. I can easily understand why that would make you want to shut down. I’ve had personal experiences of that nature, too. One thing that has helped me, and that I’ve shared with my clients is this: Insight to upcoming events gives you the opportunity to take action to support the outcome you see if you like it, opportunity to make choices if you don’t, and the opportunity to prepare if you have no choice. I figure if spirit wants me to know, it’s for one of those reasons. That’s what has helped me embrace these senses. Hope that eases your path. 💖

[veronika23]

Oh my. I am so sorry @jozkid 😞 I can understand why you wouldn't want to open up to those types of feelings again. And it's hard sometimes to know if they are true guts feelings or just stress/anxiety. Thanks for sharing this... I'm sure it wasn't easy. 🖤🖤🖤

[jozkid]

@veronika23 thanks. I got a little choked up writing this. My boyfriend was killed in 1983 — before many BICers were even born. (Yeah, I'm wicked old) Time has been a great healer. What freaks me out is the fear of losing what I have now. I'm not sure I ever put it into words like this before. I don't want to flatter myself that I'm "sensitive" or anything resembling that. But I sometimes feel like that experience so rocked me, that if there ever was anything that I could pick up on, I slammed the door on it. And I don't know whether I should be sad about it or not.

[veronika23]

@jozkid  you're not old!!! It's totally normal to feel that way too.  I didn't have your experiences but I think I slammed the door on it too... in my case I realized it was a huge mistake... but I was a kid and terrified.  I didn't have anyone to guide me. I didn't know all the things I know now. Totally understandable to be confused by it all.

[mermadelove]

ow! Lots of empaths here., Although that should not come as a surprise. IT explains how we are able to connect with each other so very well without ever 'meeting'. That and the past life thing. I think that as far as bad things happening, our lessons are our lessons. We get the over and over and over again in moe and more subtle forms until we nail them. Then , we KEEP getting them., Except instead of learning the lesson, we are teaching it, Instead of thinking "Why me?"  Thing" Because I've been through this so much  I've GOT this. ANd I'm not going to react the way you expect because I've been through this so many times that I am going to choose the outcome that I want and then act accordingly." We may not be able to make people act the way we want ( Thank goodness on that really because of the whole free will thing, ) but we CAN choose how we respond. Disconnect from the emotional reaction as much as possible and choose the action we take. THat alone changes the dynamic, and maybe the people we are having the experience with learn a new way of dealing with the same old Sh!t that we all go through, Despite how negative the world seems, we really are all in this together and can help each other through, Of course there ARE times when the best course of action is to NOT SHOW UP for other people's ish and teach them that they cannot be that way by cutting them out of your life. 

Love to all of you. You are what makes this world a better place! @veronika23 @fieldsofclover @Fernleaf @quspork

[veronika23]

yeah well... I'm not a big believer in this whole free will thing... I think it's an illusion we tell ourselves so we think we are in control when in fact we aren't. @mermadelove

[fieldsofclover]

@veronika23  I'm a Hellenistic astrologer so I slide way to the fate side of the fate/free-will spectrum... I have one pal who says "It's important that we exercise our illusion of free will" and I think that's about where I come down on the whole thing.

You remember the original "choose your own adventure" books from the 80s? I think it's kind of like that... you get your "book" and there are only so many branching paths to take, but you still choose how you navigate within that narrow range, and there are a few different places you could end up - possibly the set of options/outcomes are predetermined, but still some agency remains as to the later-stage particulars.

There is a terrifically fun argument here about talismans and remedial measures that some of my friends and I get into for sport 😂