Neoteric & Necessary November Hauls 2024

[danielledanielle]

It's the time for the haul of fall

Sephora Savings event, y'all
Show us your giftin'
Credit card limits be a-liftin'
As you're sifting through
And shifting to
The end of the year
Show us what you find dear.

Happy Birthday to the November BIC babes

Photo cred: little, brown young readers

[WinglessOne]

Thank you @jaaayp ! Glad you’re loving Danessa’s Yummy Skin blushes! I’ll be very biased here and say the 4-piece set’s definitely worth buying. 👍

[sister13]

Everything is gorgeous! Thanks for the swatches and opinions on all of it! @WinglessOne 

[WinglessOne]

Thanks @sister13 !

[itsfi]

@WinglessOne, that lipstick bag is fantastic. Does the Milk primer have a tacky to the touch feel to it? 

[WinglessOne]

Thanks @itsfi! About the Milk primer: do you mean the original version or the newer “Glow” version? The regular one is mildly tacky. The glowy one feels grippier to me. I’ve used to regular version before, just on and around my oily nose to extend a redness-masking skin tint’s wear time on overheated days. The glowy version will be interesting to try there. 

I keep forgetting to try the regular version under my eyes with concealer. Not sure I’ll try the Glow version there… Since it’s pearly (and a bit sparkly), it could act as an undereye brightener either solo or under concealer. But it’s also noticeably gold—though not quite highlighter level gold if sheered out: 

It’s sheered out here. When first applied though, it looks alarmingly boldly gold. 😄

[itsfi]

@WinglessOne, I meant the new one; I missed that you picked up both in your haul. Thank you.

[WinglessOne]

@itsfi  Ah. Yeah, the glowy version came with the regular version in a set. if you’ve used the regular one before, expect the glowy one to feel tackier. Not so grippy that things won’t easily blend over it, but grippier than the regular primer. 

[Ispend2much6]

I'm sorry @WinglessOne  but you are going to HAVE to keep the Guerlain.  So stunning on you; very eye-catching. 

The LE lipstick really brightens up your complexion; from that photo it appears you have a good bit of the same shade of pink of the lipstick in your complexion.

[WinglessOne]

Thanks @Ispend2much6 ! I’m still on the fence about the Meteorites. If they weren’t heavily fragranced, this would be an easier decision for me. 

Yeah, it took me decades to realize and accept that my undertone is indeed rosy cool. 😂 My overtone is more of a terracotta, somewhere between warm and neutral. And to further confuse things, I have some surface redness on and around my nose. This mix of tones makes certain lipstick colors tricky: I still have trouble with pink-leaning corals, for instance. A shade like Audrey does bring out my undertone a bit, though. 

[Ispend2much6]

It is really tricky to figure out tones and find good shade matches. @WinglessOne   I am still looking for my "perfect" foundation.

Things change too after you hit 40 or so, and definitely during/after menopause.  I don't know why it was a surprise for me to learn that I have a good deal of olive in my skin, as my grandfather was from southern Italy.  I guess because I have a light complexion with pink and extremely cool undertones, so I didn't think those could exist together. lol  That explains why a lot of pinks turn orange on me, and purples give me the best chance for pinks to show up on my lips and cheeks.

One day I was at Ulta, helping a WOC find a replacement for Nars' Shanghai Express lipstick.  I could tell she was cool-toned, but she had no idea.  I hope that was helpful to her for her future choices.  The manager then offered me a job...

[WinglessOne]

@Ispend2much6  Heh, you sound like me wondering why I adamantly denied having a cool undertone despite all the redheads on both sides of my family. 😂 With brown skin, it’s sometimes hard to see past an overtone (especially if you also have large patches of hyperpigmentation)—even if you’ve had color theory training and your eyes are very good at distinguishing between close colors, tints, and shades. I mean, so many foundation and concealer formulators seem to have trouble with it too, since they always wanna shoehorn the medium-deep and deeper skin tone ranges into warm and gold shades (and occasionally neutral shades). 

That’s one of the reasons it’s hard for some folks with deeper skin tones to find good shade matches: some brands pretend we can’t possibly have cool undertones. I imagine it’s even harder with an olive tone… olive can be cool or warm, but you wouldn’t know that by looking at many foundation/concealer shades on the market. 

[danielledanielle]

@WinglessOnecan you please please give a clarification on undertone vs overtone

[WinglessOne]

@danielledanielle  Putting on my art student “see, I was paying attention in theory class” hat. 😂 I’ll drop this in a spoiler because it’ll be kinda long: 

Spoiler

Overtone is exactly what it sounds like: the color(s) you see first when you look at something—in this case, human skin. Pink, peach, beige, tan, brown, and chocolate are examples of skin overtone. So is red. Overtone can change over time. Suntans change your overtone, as anyone with summer vs. winter foundation shades knows. Aging can change your overtone. So can pregnancy. Melasma is an overtone change, along with other types of hyperpigmentation (including suntans). Rosacea can cause a red overtone, especially during a flare. So can a sunburn. 

Undertone is the bane of many people’s existence when it comes to complexion makeup the color beneath overtone. It’s harder to quickly see than overtone and far less likely to change. (Example: getting a tan won’t change your undertone.) Undertone’s often the focus of tone temperature talk: warm vs. cool vs. neutral.

But overtone also has temperature. Overtone and undertone can be the same temp, or they can clash. Either way, how they affect each other can help folks figure out which makeup shades might work best for them. The vein test is supposed to reveal your undertone temp, and it does work for some people. At my wrist, my veins are blue and purply-blue. Traveling up my forearm, those veins become more teal blue colored—because my overtone is neutral-to-(kinda)warm. My under and over tones clash. Together, they create an overall rosy terracotta skin tone. (Thank you Live Tinted for creating a “rosy terracotta” concealer shade that best explains my overall skin coloring.) Veins on my arm look teal blue instead of green because my overtone’s not warm (yellow) enough to green ‘em up. 

Disclaimer: I’m not a color theory expert. I learned it in school (including college) for various art classes, and I sometimes refer to it during my art projects. But I don’t consider myself an expert. I don’t have an MFA, for instance. I do think it’s something worth learning though. It can help folks feel more confident and adventurous about playing with all the pretty colors. 👍

[danielledanielle]

@WinglessOne Heh heh, your professor should be proud.  This is a less confusing explanation than what I've seen.  It also helps me because I've been wondering why I've gotten a few cool matches (Rare Beauty, Lancôme) but it's the overall effect of product 's base mix on my overtone vs being an actual cool.  Usually things that are too white or blue will give me nothing but dust, but once in a while a base will have a lot of pink to it and it works.

[makeitup305]

@WinglessOne you got some really gorgeous shades and good deals! I've been eyeing that DM set, too. It's so great. Enjoy everything!

[WinglessOne]

Thanks @makeitup305 ! I definitely recommend the DM blush set, especially if you already like that blush formula. 

[makeitup305]

@WinglessOne side note--- the Flutter palette is on sale 😉

[WinglessOne]

@makeitup305  I’d say “nope, I didn’t read that,” but I miiight’ve gone and put Flourish (it’s also on sale) in my cart, and then Underland may possibly have insisted on joining the party so you know, why be a party pooper when I can let both palettes have fun on their way to my door? 

I did try to resist Underland in case it goes on sale later this month. Eh, I used one of the several 10% affiliate promo codes floating around to at least cover shipping. This will probably be my last 2024 eyeshadow palette purchase. Now I just need to keep resisting Sonia G.’s latest limited edition brush set until it sells out (so I can’t buy it). 😅

[makeitup305]

@WinglessOne oops! 😉 I hope you love them! I DM'd ER and they did say that they were going to be doing a 20% off site wide but that it had exclusions. I'm assuming Underland and the new  6 pans aren't going to be included. We'll see if I can resist Groovy Gargens and Harvest Moon this time.I don't blame you for wanting that Sonia G set, it's gorgeous.

[ather]

@WinglessOne  Great haul! So I’ve been stalking the #GUERLAIN Meteorites Setting & Finishing Pearls of Powder 02  for years and have never actually picked them up. And to hear they are scented is so disappointing. Depending on scents it could be a turn off. Darn!! 

[WinglessOne]

Thank you @ather ! The Meteorites have a powdery floral makeup fragrance that’s quite strong. I could easily smell it on my swatched hand & forearm even when my arm was stretched out to the side, away from my face. I had to use a scented Farmacy cleansing balm to counteract that fragrance while washing off the Meteorites. I’m really not sure I can handle smelling that fragrance on my face all day. 😅 (I didn’t have a sneezing fit or triggered migraine while it was on my hand/arm, but still.) Plus, that much fragrance isn’t the best for my facial skin anyway—though it’d be buffered by moisturizer and sunscreen, so at least it wouldn’t immediately irritate my skin. 

But yeah, I don’t recommend these pearls to anyone sensitive to fragrance. I actually forgot they’re fragranced at all when I ordered them. 🤦‍♀️