Peace Out Retinol Stick

[Brds]

Anyone concerned about the ingredient list ? Mainly the use of Polyethelene??

[Brds]

14th place IS a factor as every product's 1st 5 ingredients is what the composition is made mainly of--the rest following, are in incremental least amounts, the farther down the list it goes. (I know this as I've studied beauty) And while Dimethicone (and Trimethicone) is not the worst ingredient, it is a 'cheap' man made filler emollient, which is why it is used in so many cosmetic brands vs more expensive natural ingredients like extracts or essential/ oils, juices or even shea. I am glad your regimen works for you! Your skin may not need much help 🙂 but for the majority inexpensive lines are ineffective as they could not afford to use more costly ingredients in large amounts. On the opposite end, expensive products arent worth the money if they are full of fillers and mad made synthetics, with all 'the good stuff' at the end of the list. 🥂

[WinglessOne]

@Brds  FYI, when replying to folks, be sure to tag them so they’ll get a notification of your reply. 🙂 

Yes, there are standards for compiling ingredients lists, which include listing ingredients in descending order of amount used. And look, I understand being concerned about a star ingredient’s placement on an ingredients list. I often whine about it myself, though mostly for marketing reasons: “why market a product heavily as a [pick a plant extract] product when that ingredient’s waaaay down the list?” But I must remind myself that some ingredients don’t need to be a product’s “main composition”—the first 5 ingredients—to be effective. Again, retinol is effective at very low amounts. Even if this retinol stick contains just 0.02% retinol (I do wish Peace Out would state the %), it’s still effective, particularly around the eyes where you’d probably want a lower % anyway. 

Also, don’t automatically turn your nose up at cheaper products. My skincare routine includes cheap and pricier products. I’m VERY ingredients-driven when it comes to skincare, as there are various ingredients my skin won’t tolerate. Usually it’s the “all natural” products that flare my inflammation issues, not products containing synthetics. 🤷‍♀️ If my skin didn’t need much help, I wouldn’t spend so much time studying and researching ingredients and clinical studies, let alone see a dermatologist. 😂  A lot of inexpensive products work for many people. 

Is this Peace Out product overpriced? Maybe, I dunno. Assuming you’re not a chemist: if you know a cosmetic chemist, ask them about this product. I’m sure there are better priced alternatives, but I can’t say this product’s ineffective without knowing how much retinol (and perhaps which retinol) it contains. Peace Out says it contains “encapsulated retinol,” which explains some of the “fillers” in the formula. 

[Brds]

@WinglessOne and you're right, I forgot--sensitive skins react adversely to natural stuff esp. essential oils can completely inflame skin. Dont get me wrong I like cheaper lines too! Saturday Skin for example is a great inexpensive line with great ingredients and somw items in The Ordinary. If Peace Out would state their %age of Retinol used that would be very helpful! ✌😊

[Brds]

@WinglessOne whoops! Sorry didn't even realize you werent being tagged! 😁

[Annieko]

@Brds 

Yeah, It's polyethelene is plastic.... I don't know why they had to put it in there.

[Brds]

Exactly! Plastic. Seems like quite the unsavoury (though safe it is said) and cheap filler to be used in a great product.

[WinglessOne]

@Brds  At first glance, nope: I'm not concerned about the ingredients list of Peace Out Retinol Eye Stick . Polyethylene is used in many (many) products as a thickener and texture improver, and it hasn't been proven unsafe to humans. 

Is there a reason you're concerned about it and/or other ingredients in this product? I do think it's kinda odd that Peace Out lists both bakuchiol and psoralea corylifolia seed extract (they're the same thing), but it doesn't worry me. 

[Brds]

Not worried but not impressed with the 4th ingredient being plastic and Retinol being 14th. I question the marvel of this product's performance--mainly due to squalane which acts more of a sealant and should be on top of a moisturizer..You're better off with Boissance products. Just an opinion.

[WinglessOne]

@Brds  Retinol is effective in amounts as low as 0.02%. Without knowing how Peace Out's product is formulated (and without being a chemist), we can't know whether retinol in 14th place on the ingredients list is effective or not—because we don't know what % they used. But I'm gonna guess it's effective. 

Squalane doesn't have to be on top of a moisturizer. It's occlusive, sure, but it won't block the penetration of active ingredients. (Neither will silicones like dimethicone, despite myths to the contrary.) My current AM and PM moisturizer is Vanicream Daily Facial Moisturizer which relies on squalane for occlusivity. Like many people, I apply my retinoids—The Inkey List Retinol (granactive retinoid + retinol) under my eyes, Avene RetrinAL 0.1 Intensive Cream (retinaldehyde) on the rest of my face—over my moisturizer every night. Before I switched to the Avene retinal, I used Sobel Skin Rx 4.5% Retinol Night Treatment (granactive retinoid + retinol). The squalane in my moisturizer doesn't block my retinoids, as proven by visible results. In fact, many dermatologists recommend applying retinoids, including tretinoin, over moisturizer as the last PM skincare step to reduce irritation and prevent moisture loss. 

I don't work for Peace Out, nor am I trying to defend their product. 🤣 I'm just explaining why the ingredients list doesn't worry me at all. You're certainly entitled to skip this product, of course. I won't buy it because I don't need it: I already have something that works well for me.