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BEAUTY NEWS 2.0

~ Updated Dec 23rd 2020 ~

 

A place to talk about beauty news... anything that doesn't have a specific thread. For upcoming releases, product updates and brand threads see the links below.

 

Thanks to everyone who contributes to this thread!

 

UPCOMING RELEASES

2021 RELEASES THREAD

https://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Confidential/2021-PRODUCT-RELEASES-THREAD/m-p/5692691

 

FALL-WINTER & HOLIDAY RELEASES

https://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Confidential/FALL-WINTER-amp-HOLIDAY-2020-RELEASES/m-p/55432...

 

FOUND IN THE WILD THREAD

(links to new products for purchase at Sephora)

https://community.sephora.com/t5/Trending-Now/FOUND-IN-THE-WILD-THREAD/m-p/5157361

 

CANADIAN PRODUCT THREAD

(links to new products for purchase at Sephora)

https://community.sephora.com/t5/Oh-Canada/What-s-New-On-The-Site-Today-Canada/td-p/2164948

 

BRAND THREADS

Spoiler
ABH
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/The-Anastasia-Beverly-Hills-Thread/td-p/2516061
BECCA

https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/%EF%B8%8FBecca-thread/m-p/2431704
BENEFIT
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/The-Benefit-thread/m-p/2933351
BESAME
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/The-Besame-Cosmetics-Thread/m-p/3316483
BIOTHERM
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/The-Biotherm-Thread/m-p/2439346
BITE

https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/Upcoming-BITE-Beauty-Releases/m-p/2025165
BOBBI BROWN
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/Bobbi-Brown-Thread/td-p/2562428
BURBERRY
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/Burberry-Beauty-Updates/td-p/1983178
CHANEL
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/Chanel-Updates/m-p/1940873
CHARLOTTE TILBURY
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/Let-s-talk-about-Charlotte-Tilbury/td-p/2005225
CIATE LONDON
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup-Is-Life/All-about-Ciate-London/td-p/2464559
COLOURPOP

https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/Any-ColourPop-Fans-Here/td-p/2156337
COVER FX
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/Cover-Fx-Love/m-p/2675382
DECIEM
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/THE-DECIEM-THREAD/m-p/2729996
DIOR
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/All-Things-Dior/m-p/2545923
DIPTYQUE
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/Discussion-for-the-Diptyque-Crowd-please-join/td-p/2341...
ESTEE LAUDER
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/Estee-Lauder-Thread-New-Releases/td-p/2552834
FARMACY
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/New-brand-Farmacy-feedback-and-discussion/td-p/2153377
FENTY BEAUTY
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/THE-FENTY-BEAUTY-THREAD/m-p/2877198
GIORGIO ARMANI
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/Do-we-seriously-not-have-a-thread-dedicated-to-all-things/m-p...
GIVENCHY
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Confessions/The-GIVENCHY-Thread/td-p/2565876
GUERLAIN

http://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Insider/For-the-love-of-all-things-Guerlain/td-p/2180749
HOURGLASS
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Products/HOURGLASS-THREAD/m-p/2419091
HUDA BEAUTY
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/The-HUDA-BEAUTY-Thread/td-p/2729529
INDIE BRANDS
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/Indie-brands-and-other-not-so-talked-about-makeup-brands/td-p...
IT COSMETICS

http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/IT-Cosmetics-Thread/td-p/2468298
JO MALONE
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/Jo-Malone-Thread-Share-the-News-and-Love/m-p/2609140
KAT VON D

http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/THE-KVD-THREAD/m-p/2544212
KEVYN AUCOIN
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/Kevyn-Aucoin-Thread/td-p/2437161
KIKO
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/Let-s-Talk-About-Kiko/td-p/2341265
LANCOME
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/The-Lancome-Thread/m-p/2861748
LAURA MERCIER
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/Laura-Mercier-Thread/td-p/2562421
LIPSTICK QUEEN
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/Lipstick-Queen-Thread/m-p/2737940
LUSH
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/THE-LUSH-THREAD/m-p/3131963
MAC

http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/MAC-Love-and-Releases-Thread/td-p/2109065
MAKE UP FOR EVER
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/The-MUFE-Make-Up-For-Ever-Thread/td-p/2406781
MARC JACOBS
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/Marc-Jacobs-Beauty-News-amp-Discussion/m-p/2301944
MILK MAKEUP
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/Milk-Makeup-Thread/m-p/2848850
MISCELLANEOUS JAPANESE BEAUTY BRANDS
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup-Is-Life/MISCELLANEOUS-JAPANESE-BEAUTY-BRANDS-THREAD-NEWS-amp...#M35047
NARS

http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/Let-s-Talk-About-NARS/td-p/2099708
NATASHA DENONA
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/Natasha-Denona/td-p/2090656
NUDE
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Skincare-Stories/NUDE-Skincare-Thread/td-p/2507094
NUDESTIX
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/Let-s-Get-Nudestix/m-p/3061231
PAT McGRATH

http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/PAT-McGRATH-LABS/td-p/2418816
RITUEL DE FILLE
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/Does-anyone-have-experience-with-Rituel-de-Fille/td-p/2059082
SEPHORA COLLECTION
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/Sephora-collection-New-Releases-and-Discussion-thread/td-p/27...
SHISEIDO
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup-Is-Life/THE-SHISEIDO-THREAD-NEWS-amp-DISCUSSION/m-p/4105635#...
SMASHBOX
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/Smashbox-Discussion-Thread/m-p/2913519#M52686
STILA
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/Stila-Cosmetics-New-Releases-2017/m-p/2709226
STORYBOOK COSMETICS
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/Storybook-Cosmetics-Thread/td-p/2717768
SUQQU
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup-Is-Life/THE-SUQQU-THREAD-NEWS-amp-DISCUSSION/m-p/4105770
SURRATT

http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/Let-s-talk-about-Surratt/td-p/2455924
TARTE
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/THE-TARTE-THREAD/td-p/2419298
TATCHA
https://community.sephora.com/t5/Brand-Loyal/The-Tatcha-Beauty-Thread/m-p/3388968
TOM FORD

http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/Tom-Ford-Updates/td-p/1903440
TOO FACED
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/Too-Faced-New-Releases-2016/td-p/2500873
URBAN DECAY

http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/Urban-Decay-Thread/td-p/2147187
VISEART
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/THE-VISEART-THREAD/m-p/2396215
YSL
http://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup/YSL-Love-Updates/td-p/2430645

 Old Beauty News Thread

Spoiler

 

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@pocketvenus Ah that would make sense! Yes thankfully I have no issues with nuts, they’re a staple in my diet! I’m like a squirrel hahaha. 

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I’m sorry @alexasteph , yuk that’s no fun! 

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@Sunnysmom No it was not! I haven’t tried their non-lanolin Agave products yet, but I’ve found other lip masks I enjoy do there’s no real need. 

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I didn’t have issues with Bite’s @alexasteph but have noticed I have had with others. Good to know on the lanolin!  

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@pocketvenus That's a very good point!  And may serve to be a cautionary tale for other brands?

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@CookieGirl1  I'm disappointed that Sephora's doubling down on the whole "clean" marketing scam. I'm all for better sustainability, but it doesn't need to be hitched to the "clean" train. 🙄 ALL brands, be they "clean" or "dirty," should strive for more sustainable practices, formulations, and packaging. It has nothing at all to do with "clean" status, and I don't appreciate Sephora equating sustainability—which is a legit concern among scientists and wildlife conservation agencies—with a baseless marketing ploy. This is pretty insulting, Sephora. 

 

Also, I thought the current "Clean at Sephora" label already excludes most petrolatum-based ingredients. I'll be surprised if this label also excludes any perfuming essential oils like lavender, grapefruit, lemongrass, peppermint, geranium, damask rose, etc., since it seems many "clean" brands rely on those potentially skin-irritating natural ingredients. 

 

And Sephora's attempt to compete with Credo is kinda funny... I wonder if they're doing that only because Ulta took Credo seriously, and Sephora's actually just trying to compete harder with Ulta now that this large competitor's added more prestige brands to their roster. Hmm. 

 

Some folks might assume I boycott all "clean" brands and products, but I don't. I simply ignore their "clean" status and, instead, compare their INCI lists to the brands' claims of efficacy and results—just as I do with any other brand's products. But lately, I've wondered if I should stop supporting brands that push the lie that all "clean" and "100% natural" ingredients are better than "dirty" ones. Still, it'll be interesting to see the new "clean"—err, "Clean Plus" brands Sephora sells. I noticed a new brand last night and have already forgotten the brand's name... they're a Japanese brand... ah, Damdam. The first product I looked at (an essence in mist form) contains essential oils of grapefruit, cardamom, and damask rose. Surprise surprise. 

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@WinglessOne I agree and for me, I find the "clean" or "all natural" claim in fragrance is inconsistent and not really meaningful. It potentially muddies the issue.

 

To me, I think it's worth considering where the push for this kind of labeling comes from. We all know that regulations on cosmetics and other consumer goods that contain known carcinogens and such can be weak. This can be the same for sustainable or ethical practices, particularly as pertaining to environmental costs and working conditions. But it is impossible for every individual to vet every single ingredient in the goods they consume. So I understand why it's just easier for people to want a sticker from a third party or to default to "natural=good" thinking. Who has the time to research all these chemicals? Evaluate the information they find? And that's before we ask people to start thinking about stuff like sustainable and ethical business practices. I feel like these auditing organizations, the whole B Corp status comes to mind, are capitalizing on this unmet need consumers have for safety and a desire to support more ethical and sustainable businesses. Maybe these auditors are genuinely trying to fill a gap but I think we both agree that ultimately it's a fake solution that feels good.

 

Instead of leaning on stronger regulatory oversight, policies from within the industry or the state, we are taught to pressure individual companies and brands who feel more accessible to us citizens than the politicians who are supposed to represent our own public interests. This kind of vetting is impossible for an individual, but I imagine it's still difficult for corporations, even one as large as Sephora, to keep up with the new products, the reformulations, companies operating in different countries, it's incredibly complex. So I get this turn to a marketing program like Clean Plus. It's a feasible way to make it look like consumer concerns are being addressed.

 

Of course, there's also a cost to heavy regulation so I'm not suggesting bringing in state regulation will just fix everything. These matters tend to get political, even if it's not a governmental regulatory body. Like every few years, it seems like IFRA comes out with a mega ban on chemicals deemed to be potential allergens which forces every fragrance house to reformulate and like, maybe buy replacement ingredients from huge scent and taste corporations like Firmenich >_<

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@pocketvenus @WinglessOne I agree with you both.  I feel like the whole thing is just a cash grab of sorts.

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@CookieGirl1 @WinglessOne Yes, I wish there was a better solution to what strikes me as valid concerns.

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Not sure if this has been posted before but I just learned of this - the sale is set to close later in the year, Q3.

 

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From unilever site

 

@WinglessOne @jen81 @Shosh85 @lmaster @sprocketta 

I know I'm missing people to tag. I'm sorry. I'll try to tag other folks who I think may be interested after work.

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@itsfi  Thanks for the tag!! I hope there's no drastic changes and I especially hope they don't do away with my favorites! 

Also, I had no idea they owned so many ice cream companies! I learn so much here on the BIC! 😉

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@Shosh85, I know you've been getting into the brand so I thought you might be interested in the news. From the posts below ⬇️, it seems like there's a good chance things may not change too dramatically with PC's offering post-sale, which bodes well to those of us with favorites. 😁 So, it's a wait and see, and while we wait, there's ice cream. 🍦🍨😂

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@itsfi  I just seem to have bad luck with my favorites being discontinued 😕 Like with the Sephora lip balms/scrubs - I've tried them all and the ONLY one I liked was the Honey one, and of course it's the ONLY one they stopped selling. ☹️

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Thanks for the tag, @itsfi ! I was surprised Unilever’s the buyer because I never associate them with the beauty industry, at least not in the US. I think they own drugstore brands like Simple, Dove, and that one brand I always see at Ulta and Target whose name I often forget… Love Beauty & Planet? And some haircare brands like Tresemme and Suave. Thats all that comes to mind for beauty. I always associate Unilever with ice cream and Vaseline. 😂 But again, I see them only through an American lens. Im sure they have other brands that are popular in the UK and elsewhere. 

 

So at first, Unilever seems an odd buyer choice to me. But I can see why they’d want to add PC to expand their beauty portfolio: PC is kinda like a bridge between drugstore and "higher end" skincare, with good science-based products at mostly reasonable price points. I’m almost glad PC’s not being swallowed by L’Oreal, Estee Lauder, Shiseido, etc. 

 
As long as Unilever doesn’t over-expand the Paula’s Choice product catalog (which has already exploded, thanks in part to the brand’s current owner), jack up prices (another consequence of PC’s first buyer), or push product reformulations for worse, I’m not too concerned. In fact, I'd like to see PC's current catalog streamlined. I still love their approach of products per skin type, but in recent years they've launched several new products that seem mostly trend-driven, like their CBD products. I wish they'd slow their roll and edit their catalog. 

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@WinglessOne, I love 😍 that you associate Unilever with ice cream; I just learned about that connection when reading up on this acquisition - me thinks this means I should have a bowl of ice cream to celebrate this news. 😉 My first thought was "don't they [Unilever] make bar soap, like Caress and Camay?😂 The brand does have more of a diverse portfolio than I was aware of and my brain is connecting the dots as I read what others here have posted about the skincare brands under Unilever's ownership.

 

I completely support your wish that PC would "slow their roll"; I love skincare and recognize that there are a lot of innovative skincare products on the market now and that may influence more brands to launch new lines more frequently, but, and I may be in the minority, but there's also something to be said about having a more edited collection. If anything, it will be very interesting to see how PC performs leading up to and following the completion of sale.

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@itsfi @WinglessOne I'm curious - what products do you think Unilever might do away with if they edit or streamline Paula's Choice?  I mean, I'm assuming they'll keep their Paula's Choice Skin Perfecting 2% BHA Liquid Exfoliant 4 oz/ 118 mL since it's their top product, but other than that...

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@itsfi  Heh, make sure your celebratory ice cream is Ben & Jerry's! Or Breyers would also work. But B&J has far better mix-ins. 👍 Anyway... Once upon a time, Paula's Choice had a much smaller product catalog. I realize brands expand their offerings as they mature and/or grow more popular, but PC's expansion created some product overlap. Several people have told me they don't shop at PC's site because the selection is overwhelming, even after narrowing the field by skin type. If PC's approach was more single-ingredient focused, like The Ordinary's, then a larger catalog would make sense to me. But it's not, so it doesn't. It'll definitely be interesting to see how the brand fares this year. I'm sure there will be (if there's not already) lots of "omg PC sold out and now they're terrible" griping on youtube and instagram and whatnot*. 

 

@greeneyedgirl107  For starters, Unilever and PC should look at where they have product overlap: things are are perhaps too similar to warrant 2 (or more) separate products, especially if they'll work for a wide range of skin types/behaviors. PC has 13 cleansers right now, excluding their scrub, oil cleanser, and Gentle Touch. Several of them are lotion or cream cleansers and I wonder if they're all needed. I'd hate to see Optimal Results Hydrating Cleanser disappear, but if it's very similar to another cream cleanser then I'd give the other one a shot. 

 

PC has 20 moisturizers plus 11 SPF moisturizers. THIRTY-ONE MOISTURIZERS. And I excluded their body moisturizer(s) from my count, though that can also be used on the face. That's... too many. 🤣 I'm not going to compare all their ingredients to see which ones provide the exact same benefits and effects, but I'd be shocked if there wasn't some overlap. Maybe PC and Unilever should start with this category. 

 

 

*I remember when Ben & Jerry's fans (and anyone interested in social entrepreneurship) flipped out over the company's sale to Unilever. But B&J has survived: the brand still makes dang good ice cream and sticks to its social mission. Sure, Unilever discontinued a flavor or 2 as low sellers. But if B&J can weather a mega buyout without losing its soul, surely Paula's Choice can too. 

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@WinglessOne @itsfi  .... did someone say ice cream?? 🍦🙄

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@missjeanie, I felt inspired to do more research. 😂 It seems that in addition to Ben & Jerry's and Breyers as @WinglessOne shared, Unilever also owns Good Humor, Klondike, Magnum and Popsicle. That's a good variety to choose from. 😋

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Wow! @itsfi I appreciate good research!!  Bahahaha might just need to conduct a trial study or two myself!

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Absolutely @missjeanie! 😃 Science requires you conduct extensive trial studies on this; testing everything over and over again. 😉 You can never be too sure. 😂 

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