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I know there are a few of us on BT that are fragrance addicts, so I thought it would be nice to have a dedicated place where we can share our thoughts.
This is not to take away from the lovely What Are You Wearing Today, Fragrance Edition thread, but more a place to post longer reviews, chat about new brands or releases, and just shoot the breeze on anything good and smelly 🙂
For me, I recently acquired 2 new decants that I've been anxiously awaiting. Ever since Lachaton mentioned that MMM was releasing a new scent called By The Fireplace I've been itching to get my hands on it. My decant arrived yesterday, so I'm looking forward to marinating in it this weekend. Secondly, I recently picked up a tiny sample of Shiseido Nombre Noir. Supposedly it is one of the most expensive failures in perfume history - made by Serge Lutens for Shiseido back in the 80s. Of course, with a backstory like that, I was dying to get a sniff 😄
What's new on your scent radar? Do tell!
More details on TF Metallique
WILLFUL. FEARLESS. ADDICTIVE.
FORGED WITH ELEGANT BRILLIANCE, TOM FORD METALLIQUE MESMERIZES ITS ADMIRERS WITH A PULSATING FLASH OF MODERN, RESOLUTE FEMININITY, WILLFUL, LUMINOUS AND IN FULL BLOOM. A HIGH-SHINE ARMOR OF ADDICTIVE ALDEHYDES ENVELOP ITS REVERBERATING CORE OF SENSUOUS WHITE FLOWERS, LIKE A METAL VENUS IN FLEURS.
LIKE AN ARMORED EMBROIDERED DRESS, THE METALLIC SHEATH OF LIGHTER-THAN-AIR ALDEHYDES OPENS THE SCENT LIKE A SECOND SKIN, THE COLLISION OF CRISP VERT DE BERGAMOTE AND PINK PEPPERCORN FURTHER STEELING THE INSATIABILITY OF THE FIRST IMPRESSION.
BENEATH ITS COOL VENEER, METALLIQUE'S FLORAL HEART IS AMPLIFIED BY JUXTAPOSING DELICATE WHITE BLOSSOMS OF AUBEPINE AND MUGUET WITH THE NARCOTIC-LIKE NECTAR OF HELIOTROPE.
AN AURA OF AMBRETTE SEED IMPARTS WARMTH WITH WOODY INFLECTIONS OF PERU BALSAM. THE SOFT SCENT OF VANILLA AND CREAMY SANDALWOOD LAYER AN ADDICTIVE, CONTRASTING FINISH THAT FURTHER DRIVES THE METALLIC SUITING OF THE OPEN.
Has anyone tried this yet?
@ChristalM an acquaintance of mine on IG messaged me on the weekend to say she'd tried it. She said the main thing she got out of it was vanilla. AFAIK I don't think it's launched yet in Canada, though.
@Mochapj Ok thanks. Hummm it sounds right up my ally. I see it is listed on Sephora as coming soon...
@MochapjThanks for sharing! The ALL CAPS is amazing ha ha. So basically it's crunchy on the outside with a creamy center. I actually want to try this 😄
@pocketvenus I very much would like to meet someone who writes fragrance marketing because it’s always the most ridiculously over the top prose 🤣
@MochapjI enjoy reading them even when the perfumes are meh ha ha. Definitely some would be poets in there trying to pay the bills 😄
@RoseCharlieI love it!!! I totally agree that smaller houses are worth looking into as they can use more expensive ingredients and charge less because their overhead is low. By the way, if you love fun gourmands, 4160 Tuesdays has some quirky and adorable ones.
@RoseCharlieyes, you are right in that the large houses have the ability to leverage economies of scale to access better ingredients, though I'm also guessing they are under far more pressure to maintain very high profit margins.
That is so cool you've been thinking about perfumery!!!! 🙂 I've read some of the aromachemicals like ISO-E super are pretty cheap but again, I'm guessing there is a minimum amount to purchase and that this is rather high! And I think you're right about the perfume obsessed and smaller sizes. 10-30 ml is the ideal for me. I have far too many perfumes to justify 100 ml or even 50. I would never use it up.
@pocketvenus oh absolutely! Sorry I wasn’t intending that to be a counter-argument in any way I was just generally discouraged that all of the things i wanted to get started were generally adding up to so much but you’re totally 500% right most of the aromachems or designer molecules (like it’s weird there’s really only a few companies that design all of the molecules perfumers use and they do a lot of the fragrances that’s go into everything from household cleaning products to designer perfumes - Giveaudan and Firmenich are the ones I see most often)... but sorry that was a terrible digression - yes - the individuals aromachemicas are super cheap!!! That’s why it blows my mind that perfumes like Not a Perfume sell so well it’s maybe 10 cents worth of product and that’s mainly the cost of them or perfumer’s alcohol I think lol. It’s true that I would be buying from a reseller so it’s a bit more expensive but my shopping cart is adding up to a lot because I’ve also placed a lot ignored natural materials in there. My interest in perfumery came from experimenting with natural materials when making my own bath and body stuff and I love the way LUSH makes its fragrances for bath and body’s products (I’m not as much of a fan of their actual fragrance line) but in their non-perfume product line I find that the natural scents are often (not always but often) recognizable and that the synthetic components play more of a supporting role or add interest or sweetness but I can often smell real lavender or neroli or rosewood or rose absolute or lemon or lime or jasmine essential oil. I like that it creates this sort of connection to real things and what those things smell like. I would love to make something like that. I’ve been buying and smelling and experimenting with natural materials - essential oils, absolutes, oleoresins, CO2 extracts etc. for years but ive yet to try anything with synthetics. I don’t know how much demand there is for that kind ignorant thins though - like LUSH’s fragrance called « LUST » is exactly exactly precisely the smell of jasmine absolute with maybe just the smallest hint of sandalwood but otherwise it’s precisely exactly what jasmine absolute smells like. At higher concentrations jasmine absolute has a sort of gasoline note almost - but when people think of jasmine in perfumery I think they are often thinking about a sort of conceptual flower like a clean white floral - not this heavily indolic crazy smelling floral with a hint of gasoline. So I have seen a lot of people saying they hate that fragrance and that it smells nothing like jasmine when really I almost 100% sure that it must be the fragrance with the highest concentration of real jasmine absolute on the market. I try to read a lot of reviews to get a sense of what people think and I also see so many people commenting on perfume lines like Pacifica and saying how much of a difference it makes to wear all natural scents when really the only think in their fragrances that I can recognize as having some sort of relationship to nature is the grain alcohol lol. So I would like to make things with that blend natural and synthetic products but where the natural essences are the star of the show but I don’t know if people would value that enough to pay additional money for it. I live in Toronto and ive been a bit surprised not to be able to find a real perfumery course I could take locally. I think no one is really keen on this notion because it’s so out of left field I have a whole other job but I keep coming back to it and thinking about it. Another weird thing that I found a bit earlier on when i started making my own bathband body products was that almost every single vendor on Etsy (not alll but most) uses incredibly cheap fragrance oils to make their products. Fragrance oils can be purchased from craft shops for soap makers and candle makers - I bought so many different fragrances oils to test out when I first started and I never ended up using a single one because I thought they were all god awful. Price-point wise they can’t even possess designer scent molecules baby Giveaudan or firemenich because they are so so so cheap so I’m guessing they must Veblen made with the cheapest of the cheapest aromachems... So I am surprised at how well these products sell because to me they smell kind of terrible but there are eveb people making money by adding oil to the and selling these cheap fragrance oils as customized perfumes. I guess I’m looking at demand on the lower price point end of the market though and there must also Be demand at higher price points since there aren’t many companies putting out perfumes that are very costly as well...
@RoseCharlieNo worries!!!! I didn't take your post as an argument at all, just read it as adding more info and insight to the conversation <333
Eccentric Molecules is another great example of what you're talking about with Not a Perfume - it's one aromachemical in alcohol ha ha ha. I get there's minimalism in perfume and I like ISO-E Super but come on!
Yes, sometimes people like the cleaned up scents/lower concentrations better. Jasmine can smell plasticky, like moth balls, like banana peels, not exactly what I want to smell like!!!
As for Pacifica... I don't believe the term "natural" is regulated so it really does make me wonder what they mean by natural. At least with the Clean seal at Sephora we know the fragrances have passed some kind of standard.
I live in Toronto as well and I agree - we don't even have a dedicate perfume boutique now that Niche Essence closed!
Tom Ford Private Blend Reserve Tuscan Leather Intense
https://m.sephora.com/ca/en/product/tuscan-leather-intense-P447140
Heard this was less fruity and more smoky. Have not tried it yet! Thanks for the link @Mochapj !
Looks like ELDO is coming out with some candles
I had to google cistus but this sounds really nice! too bad I'm poor @Mochapj 😄
@michelleshops I'm definitely curious to give it a sniff once it hits the counter. I was surprised to read in one of the press releases that it will be the first true oud perfume the regular line has.
I'm also glad it's in one of the clear bottles instead of some of the other ranges which are even more ridiculously pricy. I've fallen in love with a few of the 'Section d'Or' range but the pricetag is so absurd I won't allow myself to buy them.
@Mochapj I’m looking forward to trying this one as well. The market is saturated with rose-ouds but I can see Lutens having a very romantic, sultry take. Also agree about the d’Or line, it's like they just wanted to see how much they could get away with charging.