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I don't think we have one of these yet... But, if I'm wrong, please do correct me.


I've been wanting to make this thread for a while now, but as it usually is... Life got and gets in the way. But, better late than never, huh?


I've been enjoying many natural skincare products for the last 15 years or so, on and off ( mainly facial oils and balms, but masks, treatments, and body oils and balms, as well. ) I even used to make my own for years ( years ago ) as good natural skincare products were not a very easy thing to obtain. You'd have to try and hunt down quality ingredients and make stuff yourself most of the time. And, that was quite a task! It makes me happy to see that there is so many wonderful products widely and easily available lately. It makes things so much easier! Smiley Happy


Natural skincare performs better for me personally. I love and enjoy using it. My skin adores it. I love the idea of it and behind it. So, I wanted to make a place for us natural skincare lovers to talk about anything natural skincare as I see there are many others out there that are interested, or already in love with it, as well. So why not have our own little place on here? Smiley Happy So we can share our experiences ( good and/or bad ), loves, favorite products, favorite brands and their news/new launches, discus things, share our daily routines, talk DIYs if anyone is into that, why not? Anything really.


By "natural" skincare here I'm talking about skincare made mostly or completely of ingredients available in nature, like plant-derived ingredients, minerals... You know, the whole nine. Smiley Wink


Anyway - feel free to join in! You don't have to be a natural skincare lover exclusively. Everybody's welcomed!


A word of caution... For those who are new to natural skincare, proceed with caution. Inform and educate yourself really well on everything you are interested in trying and putting on your skin. Natural does not mean it won't hurt you! And, it certainly doesn't mean it's safe. Some natural ingredients can be irritating for some people. Go with what's good for you, don't force anything on your skin just because someone said it is good. Do patch tests. Be smart. People prone to allergies should pay careful attention to what they use on their skin.


 P.S. I am not completely and 100% natural, nor I imagine I ever will be as I do love me some other stuff, as well. But mostly, yes.





So true, @Mochapj ! Smiley Very Happy


True that. Most mists do nothing for me. And, if I'm gonna use them, I want them to be at least hydrating ( that's what I need the most. Additional hydration wherever I can get it. Smiley Very Happy ). Otherwise I can just use simple water spritzes for easier application of some oils and balms. Or even plain water ( as we used to do it long time ago ). No need for fancy shmancy stuff that does nothing for me. JR HA, Odacite hydrating mist and Leahlani Rubi toner are it for me. With HA being by far the most hydrating and beneficial in other ways, as well. I definitely see and feel the biggest difference with this one, too.


I totally agree about everything you said about brands and people claiming every product works for every skin type. It is a huge pet peeve of mine, too. That is simply not true. Couldn't be farther from truth. Only brands ( they just want to sell, so I kinda get it. But, it's still bleeping me off. ), and maybe people with extremely good skin that can take on  pretty much anything and are not familiar with struggles most of us mere mortals have, could claim something like that. Or maybe people blindly believing everything brands and "gurus" says. I don't know. But, it's ridiculous. And damaging. I agree.


My face hates coco oil, too. I can't use anything with coco oil in it on my face. I am still afraid to try those gorgeous Milk highlighter I got as gratis from Sephora and Milk... But, will have to sooner or later. They are so, so pretty! Over the foundation, and with coconut not being very high on the ingredient list... Maybe it'll be ok. I think it may "only" be about coconut oil based products, like you said. I guess we'll see...


And, I am so, so happy you like it, and talk about stuff here. Feel free to do so, as much as you want. I was sure I am gonna be the only one here, mostly talking to myself. Smiley Very Happy It is nice to have fellow natural skincare enthusiasts to share stuff with! Smiley Happy


I have a mix of natural skincare products and synthetic chemicals and I love both... sometimes my skin just needs a little chemical boost! Smiley Happy for me, natural does not mean they work for me...many things are natural and you would NEVER put it on your skin! For anyone interested, you must find ingredients that agree with YOU. Don't go rubbing poison ivy all over yourself now!


My favourite natural skincare products:


Herbivore Blue Tansy mask - I don't think I have ever finished a mask jar/tube before expiry but I'm about to finish this and seriously considering repurchasing. It's my go-to whenever my skin is being difficult and has helped me calm down cysts (not make them go away, but make them NOT get worse)


Tata Harper Purifying mask - my recent preference is to use this after at-home microdermabrasion so my skin can absorb all it can from this mask. My skin feels softer after using this, and the scent is so calming. Reminds me of a herbal balm my aunt (who almost raised me while my mom went back to work) used to use. It's so pricy but I've probably gotten more than 10 uses and I'm only about halfway through my jar.


Biossance Squalane + Vitamin C Rose Oil - this is a relatively new product in my routine; I've been mixing a drop of it in the AM with my Herbivore Lapis oil, and mixing 3-4 drops of it with a drop of another richer face oil (usually Herbivore Phoenix, Fresh Seaberry or Drunk Elephant Maracuja) in the PM. If our body produces squalane naturally, I could see why this is such a great product to use on skin. My skin has been glowing since I started using this product. Very happy so far!


Honorable Mentions:


Herbivore Lapis Oil - I have been trying to use up this oil for almost 2 years. When I first got it, it replaced my Laura Mercier rose oil, which became unavailable in Canada after the warehouse switch. Initially I didn't think it did as great of a job as the rose oil (didn't absorb as well) but after almost 2 years I truly believe this has helped balance my skin's oil production. I can't say that it controls breakouts but it certainly did not cause them for me. I still have about 1/4 of the bottle left and am undecided whether to repurchase. On the one hand, I want to switch back to the Laura Mercier (or only use the Biossance) but I'm always afraid of taking out products from a routine that's working well, fearing that my skin would freak out!


May Lindstrom Blue Cocoon - this is an honorable mention because 1) I don't use it frequently and 2) I haven't even finished a sample size of it. I'm not sure if I'd purchase this, but I have used this whenever my skin is reacting to something...this moisturizing balm seems to calm my skin and prevent further irritation!


Sulphur Springs Mineral Mud Mask - I went to St. Lucia last month and went to the hot sulphur springs and did a mud bath, which really is a must do! The mud comes directly from the springs and is rich in a variety of minerals like sulphur, iron, copper. You slather yourself in mud from head to toe, let dry for a few minutes, then rinse in hot spring water to wash off. The mud is very slightly gritty so as I rinsed, I gently skin was so soft! And it really helped bring down mosquito bites. Highly recommended if you're ever on the island! Very inexpensive and fun spa-like experience...


@k617 how long did it take for the herbivore lapis oil to lower your oil production? I have super oily skin and I'm pretty desperate to control it right now but I'm not so good with waiting weeks for something to work. Thanks!


@IZ95 I agree with k617.


I know it's frustrating to wait, but the best thing you can do is give it time and be consistent with a routine in order to see results.


nothing more than superficial results will occur within days. It takes between 4-6 weeks for skin turnover to happen and show more significant change.


@IZ95 unfortunately most skincare will need a few weeks minimum for you to even see actual lasting results. You can use other products to help absorb excess oil but changing your skin for the better takes time. I've been tweaking my skincare routine for the last two years, I would say it was noticeable at the 1-year mark but that's only because that was when I noticed it. 


Also remember one product might not do the job, I have a pretty comprehensive routine overall that contributes to healthy skin Smiley Happy


"...many things are natural and you would NEVER put it on your skin! For anyone interested, you must find ingredients that agree with YOU. Don't go rubbing poison ivy all over yourself now!"


Oh, you made me laugh! Smiley Very Happy But, they are good points.


I'd say that goes without saying, but I guess you never know with people. Maybe I should include it in my main post. Smiley Wink


I agree with everything you said. Except most natural skincare products ( no poison ivy here! Smiley Wink ) do work better for me. But, that is just my personal experience with natural skincare. But, there are non natural products that I love and will never give up on using. I simply use what my skin tells me it likes. Simple as that.


We are all different and react differently to things. One should try and see what works best for them. Cautiously! ( And, no poison ivy people! Smiley Wink )




For sure @lyravega!


My statement wasn't meant to be directed at you or anyone in particular (I'm sure an all-natural skincare routine work well for most people), but I want those who are considering natural skincare to be aware that natural does not automatically mean better--as you mentioned, we all react differently! The key is finding what works for our skin.


Natural things my skin doesn't love so much:

  • My lips will freak out if I use any product with peppermint oil in it.
  • My face does NOT like camellia oil for whatever reason. It likes to break out after I use camellia oil products. That means most Tatcha products are a no-no for me (but I don't think they're considered a "natural" brand)
  • algae/carrageenan - this stuff clogs my pores! I try to stay away from skincare products with algae high up in the list.
  • coconut oil - great for cleansing, using on hands but face does NOT like this as a moisturizer (pore-clogging)




Oh, I know @k617 ! No worries.


Oh my, peppermint in lip products is such an evil, evil stuff for me, too! It triggers my lip dermatitis.


And, yes! No coconut oil for my face, either! On my body, yes. But, my face freaks out if I try using anything with coco oil on my face.


Odacite is having a free mask ( the hydrating one ) or exfoliant with $95 orders.


I love me Odacite. Love sooo many of their products. They are one of my fav brands no doubt. But, I can't say I like that hydrating mask, or that exfoliant... at all.


I'm with you; the hydrating mask was (is) disappointing. I am trying to figure out how to finish it. 


What other products do you like @lyravega? I love their serums but haven't tried much else.


For sure serum concentrates and the Private Collection ( Winter In Paris and C for Colette being my fav! ). 


Oleosomes Time Release Delivery Crème is my fav moisturizer! Love the stuff! And it works great with their oils ( layering or mixing )!


Aloe + Immortelle Hydra-Repair Treatment Mist. Very nice dry skin lil helper! ( Didn't care for other two. )


Night Time Antioxidants Repair Serum.


I quite like the Rejuvenating cleanser, as well, but it is a tad bit drying on me.




Oh wow! Thanks @lyravega! Guess I have lots to add to my try list Smiley Very Happy


What is your favorite cleanser? I'd like to hear all about what you enjoy using. Smiley Happy


I think everybody and their aunt know I am in love with NUDE Jelly. But, that baby is gone. I do have a couple of backups still... But... They are going fast. And then what?! I've been trying a lot of stuff for months and months now, but nothing has come even remotely close to Jelly in satisfying my wants and needs. I do have some runner-ups in mind, though. Will see.


I also really like NUDE Nourishing Cleansing Oil, and NUDE Clarifying Cleansing Oil, even though that one is a bit drying on me. ( So many oil cleansers are so. friggin. drying! I have dry skin and finding a nice, non drying cleanser is a pain. Maybe some would work - if there were no wash cloth included! ( Looking at you  ( most ) balms! ) My skin would denounce me and run away screaming, or just fell of, if I tried to use a wash cloth even couple of times a week, little less every day! *shudders* )


Mahalo The Unveil Cleanser is very, very nice. Very! It's so good to my skin! And, even though I am of those people who think it is ridiculous to pay such money for something that will just end up going down the drain... I am seriously considering it at this point.


Farmacy has a new oil balm cleanser that I use now that Nude is gone! Its amazing, called Green Clean! 


 My face is not a fan of washcloths either.    However, I discovered Bamboo cloths, originally made for babies, that are ridiculously soft and work wonders on my skin!   They also get softer every time you wash them!


 I totally agree, don't spend too much on cleansers ( or moisturizers for that matter), spend your money on treatments, serums and masks!   I always double cleanse at night and my first cleanse is Farmacy's Green Clean ( it's amazing, love it more than anything in the world and that's all I can say about that!).  For my second cleanse and my morning cleanse, I have three on regular rotation ( 2 water-based, and one oil based).  They are Indie Lee Rosehip cleanser and Glossier Milky Jelly Cleanser ( I love them both equally, but Indie Lee has a light lovely scent that makes me happy .  The Jordan Samuel Plié cleanser  is fabulous in my opinion and super versatile in that it can also be used as a mask as well as a cleanser.   All of these are super affordable and you definitely don't feel like you're washing money down the drain!


@lyravega I mentioned the Consonant foaming face wash already as my lifelong HG of all time, but for removing makeup I absolutely love the Shu Uemura cleansing oil. I've used other cleansing oils (DHC, Neutrogena, The Face Shop) and it is honestly highly raved for a reason. It removes all my makeup but is so gentle; so nourishing but good for my oily skin; washes off easily and doesn't leave any residue/film, but leaves my skin feeling hydrated (HOW??).

I also have the Clinique take the day off cleansing balm, and Banila Co clean it zero cleansing balm (the Asian HG of cleansing balms) and the Shu one works better imo. Just wish it wasn't so expensive haha. This totally diverges from the natural skincare thing but I would give it a try Smiley Happy There are a ton that Shu makes for diff problems but I just chose the standard yellow cheapest one.


Mahalo The Unveil Cleanser is by far my favorite cleanser! It's costly, but well worth it to me personally.


Oh, and I totally know what you mean when you say you can't use wash cloths... My skin also reacts violently to that. I feel you.


@lyravega have you checked out the jordan samuel plié cleanser ? it's a good price and available from his website. maybe the closest thing i've found to the NUDE, it's ever so slightly oilier (hardly though). i've only been using it a couple weeks but so far so good !


Nope, haven't tried that one yet. Been looking at his stuff, but not quite seriously yet ( as I have so much stuff to go through. ) Sounds good. I think I'll be giving it a shot real soon. Thanks for the heads up @jemly !


Does it need to be used with a wash cloth or something...? ( I hope not! )

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