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~ Updated Sept 26th 2019 ~
Since the brand is coming to Sephora. I thought I'd start a thread just for the brand for news and info.
Brand page: https://www.sephora.com/pat-mcgrath-labs
NEW PRODUCTS
Blitz Astral Quad Eyeshadow Palette
https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/blitz-astral-quad-P451138
Obsessive Opulence: MatteTrance Lipstick
https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/obsessive-opulence-mattetrance-lipstick-P451132
Mothership VI Eyeshadow Palette - Midnight Sun
https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/mothership-vi-eyeshadow-palette-midnight-sun-P449790
Eye Ecstasy: Eye Shadow Palette Mini
https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/eye-ecstasy-eye-shadow-palette-P448447
Skin Fetish: Sublime Perfection Foundation
https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/skin-fetish-sublime-perfection-foundation-P447519
Skin Fetish: Sublime Perfection Primer
https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/skin-fetish-sublime-perfecting-primer-P447764
Skin Fetish: Sublime Perfection Setting Powder
https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/skin-fetish-sublime-setting-powder-P447770
Skin Fetish: Sublime Perfection Foundation Brush
https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/skin-fetish-sublime-perfection-foundation-brush-P448622
Skin Fetish: Sublime Perfection Powder Brush
https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/skin-fetish-sublime-perfection-powder-brush-P448623
Mothership VI Eyeshadow Palette - Midnight Sun
Wait did I say ND @TraceyEB ? I have Pat M only in the larger ones. Mothership 1 etc. In ND I have the new mini gold and one other small one. No large. Very intense lol. Same as you with some CT!! Wish I had Suqqu , still haven’t dipped my toe in! They have to be wearable for me also. I spend way too much on lippies to spend a lot on shadows!!😳🤣
@Sunnysmom I have a few of the PMG palettes and like them. I favor the large ones over the minis but also find that the larger ones contain more "editorial" shades. I wear that sort of a look and they are lovely. I swatched Midnight sun in store and it is very lovely and more "basic," which begs the question of whether I want to pay so much. I did swatch it next to two of the new hourglass singles shades and liked the hourglass better than the similar shades in the PMG.
So, for the price, I will get input from BIC before buying. Thanks for weighing in!
Oooo @meganlisa what did you think of the hourglass singles? It’s a lot of glitter for me but it’s also a single so I’ve been intrigued anyway
@Brutalitops I love the Hourglass singles. Yes, a lot of glitter or shimmer but they are utterly stunning. I am slowly collecting them all and am disappointed that the holiday set includes 2 I already have (along with one exclusive). But they are pricey so I get them when there is a sale.
Oh right @meganlisa I recall you saying you had them. They are so pretty and yes probably quite editorial driven. Good for you to use those! I need to try. I’m so unadventurous. Very boring. lol. Midnight Sun is the first large one to tempt me lately because it does look quite wearable. Do let me/ us know if you get it and what you think! It is a lot money wise. I’ll probably wait for the next Sephora sale if I do get it. It is so good to get varying opinions. Interesting you like the Hourglass better. Less or more shimmer/ sparkle you think? Sparkle isn’t usually my friend unless super subtle. 🙂
@meganlisa, I ordered Midnight Sun because it looked versatile, and I expect to get many everyday looks from it. I also like PMG's eyeshadow formula, and when using a PMG palette, wonder why I buy eyeshadow from other brands (well, except for CT). The palette lost some cache by not having any special shades.
@TraceyEB I'm also doing a lot of Natasha D. Those shadows work on me.
But, agreed, PM is amazing and I am a collector. As much as I like the eyeshadow, the lipstick is my favorite of the brand's products. That and Chanel - best lips ever.
@meganlisa, I haven't tried a PMG lipstick, perhaps I should research for the Sephora sale. I've dabbled in ND eyeshadow (the Camel palette and one or two of the smaller ones) but not a large palette though I've considered the Gold palette more than once. Do you have a favourite or two that you'd recommend?
@TraceyEBI just got my first PMG palette a week ago so take this with a grain of salt- but Natasha Denona is still my favorite from a formula perspective. I think her shades/ textures are more intuitive though some of the types definitely have a smidge of a learning curve. I also like how effortlessly her shimmers build, PMG's take a little more work. I do think PMG's mattes more reliably/ effortlessly blend out- but I'm basing that on a sample size of 3 vs probably 25 for ND.
I love the Safari too (one of those with the learning curve), but I also love the cool neutrals in the Lila and I use my mini Star every week at least once. That teeny palette is my desert Island makeup. My biggest problem with ND, and the reason I don't own more of her stuff, is that it seems like 75% of her neutrals are super orangey or red and they look utterly terrible on me. If the shade range were better for me, I'd own all of her stuff.
@Brutalitops, really appreciate hearing your experience using ND eyeshadows and what you like about them. I'm a novice of both brands - my ND purchases have been the cheek palettes (mini duos, quads, and one 6-pan) and a few small eyeshadow palettes while with PMG, my purchases have been 2 small palettes, 2 large palettes, and a rogue single (Rose Venus) that I spied in the checkout lane. I'll make my way to Sephora in Mayfair to see the larger eyeshadow palettes in person. I shy away from orangey-red, vibrant pinks, and cranberry shades as I can't really pull them off. I've been investing in Suqqu eyeshadows over the past year and find the tones they use, even in shades I don't usually prefer, combine beautifully on the eyes. The colour scheme in their palettes is also quite different and refreshing from what I typically buy. 🙂
@TraceyEB I’ve seen Suqqu mentioned a couple times here in the BIC and I’m curious about it, where is it sold? Like I could find their website but I was wondering if there’s anywhere I could see there stuff- it looks gorgeous.
And yeah, ND’s shade choices just frustrate me. Like the whole sunset palette is basically one big “nope” and after that huge warm palette she makes a Purple+ hot pink palette. I like the Lila and use it but IMO it would have been more unique and infinitely more cool/desirable if she’d gone purple/blue. It’s like she put all the shades I like most into those mega $200+ palettes and then decided to just never do them ever again 🤷♀️. I’m excited to see where they’re headed now that she’s doing the midi size now though. If she made a midi version of the 28-pans I’d probably buy both
@Brutalitops, Suqqu is not sold on the US or Canada, so nowhere to see it. I buy Suqqu from the dept store Selfridges in the UK and buy the annual international shipping service to support multiple orders a year of Suqqu and other brands. There's a BIC Suqqu thread to keep up with releases and swatches. Also, @Mochapj recently completed "the summer of Suqqu" on her IG where she swatched and wore Suqqu eyeshadow and blush releases in her vast collection, which is a tremendous resource. The LE and UK Exclusive releases are quite popular and sought after. It has quickly become a preferred brand for me because the mix of eyeshadow shades, especially, is different from what we see from established brands.
Interesting @TraceyEB, I’ll have to check it out
@TraceyEB The PMG lip formula is perhaps my favorite. I like both the Lux and the Matte (I like the sheers too but they aren't as good). Valetta and Se*trology are my favorites lately (I've been doing the lights), along with Omi and Flesh 3. The last two are in one of the mini sets!
Regarding ND- I have fallen in love with the shadows. They are so easy and wearable. I love Safari (not everyone does) and Sunset the most. I also got Lila, Star and Gold (crazy right). They are all good so the "best" is the one you will wear. I like to use them as a base then add a little sparkle (usually from hourglass, PMG or tarte). Let me know if you get anything, please!!!
@meganlisa, thank you so much for sharing the ND lipsticks and eyeshadow palettes that you enjoy, and how you use the palettes that you have. Thanks for the link to the mini lipstick sets, too. Lots to check out! I learned today that there is a Sephora within an easy drive that carries the full line, so will put some time aside to visit that store, and spend some time with the ND line, preparing for Sephora's Nov. sale. Will circle back once I do! 🙂
@TraceyEB Can't wait to hear your thoughts! My local Sephora carries both ND and PMG, so I go in to check the new items out before buying . At the price point, doing so makes sense!
@meganlisa TBH I really don't like this palette so I won't be buying it. But if you like it and will use it you should get it, especially with 20% off. I'm sure people in the community will have honest reviews. Influencer type reviews are always so bias IMO. They just want more free stuff. It doesn't seem to be LE either so you could also wait for the next sale. 😉
@veronika23 You were an early advocate of the brand...
It isn't so amazing shade wise, but is more wearable than some. I have so much eyeshadow that I'm on the fence about another one. I do like to collect PM and am a huge fan. I'm not sure I'm a huge fan of this palette.
Agreed that BIC is more honest than the influencer reviewers. I can't believe how many reviews on this palette but then the percentage of actual purchasers seems nominal. Frustrating.
@meganlisa this palette was given to ppl via influenster so that's probably why there are so many reviews. TBH I find all that influenster crap cheapens the brand. Since it seems like a perm item there's no rush in getting it right... you can still think about it, maybe wait to see what deals there will be in the next few months... who knows what the Black Friday deals will look like. 😉
@veronika23 Yes, black friday!!! Of course.
Agreed on influenster. It is hard to find another review on Sephora's site (and all of the influenster reviews are 5 stars. Well, almost all. But they aren't helpful the way the brutally honest BIC community is). I will wait. Thanks for the input!
Did you see these? The lips are not new shades. And not yet on the PMG site. These look pretty.
@meganlisa yeah exactly! xoxox 🖤
Thanks. I did. Thanks! 🙂 The quad with the aqua is pretty! And I like the blue packaging of the lipstick but not sure about the shades... Christy looks nice but not like I need any of it anyway. 😄