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Racism in Fashion?

Ok, this doesn't apply to Sephora because they do a good job of showcasing beauty of different races and ethnicities, but my beef lies with the fashion designers, in particular: Dolce and Gabanna, Prada, Dior, etc. It angers me that since they are popular high-end designers, people still support them....ok now I'm starting to babble, I'll get to the point...


My point is that they see white people as high end, elite, and everyone wants to look like them. I have never seen Prada use a black model ever. 


Now there's another question: what about Asian, Hispanic, Indian...?


Yes, they are the minority, however, they get better job openings because of their skin color, which is sad. In 2013, you'd think that there's change, but there's non, nada. Yes, blacks (dark-skinned people) can get sucessful, but that's about it. 


Why post this on Sephora? 


Sephora does a fantastic job of seeing people as beautiful, everybody is beautiful in their own way. Several companies Sephora carries such as Bobbi Brown, Nars, Lancome, etc, they do a wonderful job and they're sucessful. 


I think the biggest problem is that since Dior Prada Coco Chanel, etc are popular brands at the moment, they have extrodinary influence on the way people outlook beauty and since 93 percent of the models they used are white, it's enough to assume that they think whites are super while there are other diversities.




What is your opinion on Racism in fashion? 




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In my opinion, I only support Nars, Versace, Urban Decay, Lancome, Smashbox, Makeup Forever etc, and of course MAC.I realized that many people love MAC because there's a ton of diversity n the products- they're not afraid to use a real dark skin model or an Indian model and they've always done that. As for "Chanel" she only caters to white people and it's pretty obvious. I guess as far as those elite brands go, I would not buy their clothing, or makeup, and even magazines such as ELLE and VOUGE are racist as crap. That's why I don't purchase them either. 

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@MintShake- So are you being racist by not commenting that the Caucasian lady is not gorgeous??? Really????

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That is not even true. If you read my post the problem is that only Caucasian ladies seem to be seen as beautiful. The whole purpose of this forum is the show that other diversities are beautiful. 

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@MIntshake- Ok I understand your point and I understand but do you see how easily things can be taken the wrong way?


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I suppose so, but I would've guessed that...nevermind

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I just want to add that racism exists towards every skin color, including caucasians. School acceptance/scholarships & Jobs are supposed to be "equal opportunity", yet many times someone who is white may not get a position because someone of color applied, but is less qualified. Same is true for gender. If the US really wants equality, then it should be equal across the board. Best resume gets the job no matter what your race, religion or gender is. Same goes for education; school's pride themselves on being diverse. We shouldn't have to check a box stating what color we are. We are all equal. 

What really irked me was when Obama was running for re-election and an African American actress was supporting Romney. Everyone threw a hissy fit. How could she not support her fellow African American? To me those calling her out are racists. So now we have to choose our countries leader based on his skin color? That makes no sense to me. 

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I think you need to look into "white privilege" - I'm not sure you realize how offensive it is to people of color to claim white people are oppressed or victims of racism.  Saying we are all equal doesn't change the hundreds of years of oppression and institutionalized inequality that disadvantages people of color and gives white people the upper hand in nearly every aspect of life.

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I love you. Sociology FTW!

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If we're looking for a change, then why are we stuck in the past? "hundreds of years of oppression and institutionalized inequality" If we keep looking at the past how are we ever going to move forward? 

So you agree that CEO's of top companies should be chosen by race & gender, not by qualification? That our president's race is more important than what he believes in? 

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We're not stuck looking at the past, we're looking at right now, dealing with reality.

Thats based on the assumption that we're not currently still experiencing years of oppression and institutionalized inequality. So, when do you think that we came out of that? When was it that warrants perceiving inequality as in the past and possible to ignore?


Also, CEOs should be based on qualifications. You seem to believe that equal opportunity is unfairly putting unqualified minorities in charge, so can you explain to me why 21% of Fortune 500 CEOs are POC? That's including ALL non-white races. And 3.6% are women (2012).To believe that equal opportunity is unfairly positive to unqualified minorities is to say the small percentage of minorities in high position are unfairly there. Its implying there's very few qualified minorities and that's offensive. 


The presidents race is not more important that his beliefs, but his experiences related to his race do have an affect on his beliefs. It would make sense that other minorities appreciated that he had experiences similar to what they experienced. Anyone who voted for or against him purely on his race is ignorant. But its a white privilege to see his race as simply a skin color we must be blind to. Ethnicity is a huge part of the POC experience, for good and bad, its impossible for him and voters to ignore how his experiences as a biracial black man affected him. And they shouldn't ignore it.


Any kind of belief that he was voted in simply because of his skin color is an offensive assumption. A huge part of his voters were minorities. That belief implies that the minorities didn't do any research into the candidates or critically think about what they want as US citizens. Put simply, he wasn't elected because he was black, that was just a bonus.



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