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Miley Cyrus' Wrecking Ball

Okay. I don't get the music video at all. I mean, the song in itself was great already. I don't understand how the music video relates to the song. lol. The music video is kinda disturbing, IMO. What's up with the licking on the hammer and riding a wrecking ball naked? I mean, she's Miley Cyrus. So many teenagers look up to her.

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I don't understand why you're asking this question after her VMA fiasco.

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She is telling everyone, through her choices, that she isn't Hanna Montana.  She is showing everyone that she is a grown woman.  I totally don't agree with her methods, but she isn't a child anymore. 

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I'm scared if this is how grown women are supposed to show they are one... lol. I agree with you - her methods are not the way I would go.

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You should be more scared of women bashing women. Madonna had the same backlash when she first came out/her concerts. 

Everyone was 'scandalized' that a women could be controversial and sexual. But men can?

Get over it already. 

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You're right and Madonna is still going strong. I don't see as many people bashing Lady Gaga and Rihanna and they look just as ridiculous half the time.I haven't watched this video yet, but regarding the VMA performance, I could care less what she looked like, but would have been great if she had practiced more and actually sounded great. To be honest, I see more scandalous clothes in the grocery store. At least if its on tv I can change the channel, but when it's standing right in front of me am I supposed to walk with my eyes closed? lol

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Wow. I feel as though your "get over it" comment was unjustified. This is my first and only time voicing an opinion on this.

 

I am concerned with women bashing women. I work with collegiate women. I see it every single day. I also see how media influences their ideas of how they are supposed to act, react, and think. These small, daily influences add up to serious issues - especially for young women learning about their place in the world and how to positively embrace their sexuality and emotional health. I can not "get over" the constant influence of media and the way that the women I work with see the world they are supposed to fit into. I am not saying that this is anything new, but it is a constant and ever changing issue that deserves thought and analysis to learn, grow and teach.

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Uuugh it was directed by Terry Richardson.  That guy is such a perv.  He's the same one that taped Kate Upton doing the Cat Daddy.  All around pervert.  As for Miley she is young, free, and has money I'm not shocked by her behavior and choose to not pay much attention. 

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I commented this when someone posted the VMA performance. People may look up to her, but in the end, she is gonna do what she wants. She is trying to break away from the whole Disney image. I don't agree with her way of doing it... but.. that is how she is choosing to do it. She is just going through a stage and I am sure when she matures a bit she will grow out of this stage just like Christina Aguilera did and I am sure many more artist have done as well. 

 

As for the video, the only reason that i can think why she wouldve done that licking thing with the hammer was to maybe show you that she is thinking the hammer is the guy, and how she shows how sensitive she was and how much she gave to him (love). and then she also uses it to wreck and smash things, so it shows how the guy (the hammer) wrecked her and is making her this way. ?? lol idk if that last part made sense! As for being naked, I can only think its just how she came in... "naked" and pure and all for love. But it didn't turn out that way. 

 

I agree, it is a great song though! I wasn't expecting a song like this from her from the way she has portraying herself lately! But it is great!

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 I get the argument that she wants to break away from Hana Montana, but she's past that point a loooong time ago and it's no longer valid, just an excuse. I'm sure no one's thinking of her like that even before this VMA performance. Maybe she's going through a phase, it happens, altho I would much prefer the method Emma Watson used to break away from Hermoine (short hair and classy/edgy) than Miley's method.

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I'm so tired of hearing about Miley Cyrus. Her music is trash and she's become slutty. Sorry if I sound mean. Just wanted to vent a little. Ah...

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I don't think we should be talking badly about anyone on here, regardless of whether we agree with their decisions. She is growing up, having huge success, and making mistakes. It's part of the growing process, and experimenting with what image she wants to portray. I do agree that kids should not be imitating those behaviors (at least until they are of age), but that is something that parents should be discussing with their kids. Controversial behavior in music videos doesn't make you a bad person.

 

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I totally agree. Eminem rapped about anger issues and punching a woman - no one seemed to blow up about that. Robin Thicke is a middle aged married man who pranced around topless girls half his age AGAIN NO SEPHORA DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT. 

Really, let the girl do what she wants. She wants to be sexual, stop **bleep** shaming. Jesus Christ - you girls ever heard of Feminism?

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In my very humble opinion, Miley is a bit of a mess. This is someone who is trying very hard to convince us that she is a grown woman and can do what she wants but she's acting more like a defiant child trying to get attention.   Reminds me of when one of my sons was about 3 and proudly proclaimed his privates to be a "rocket ship" LOL  Miley seems to just discovered that she has lady parts and wants to show it off too!

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just to clarify, this thread is supposed to discuss the music video, not specifically to talk badly or trash Miley Cyrus. every one has their individual opinion. so please learn to respect. if you don't like what you're reading, nobody told you to click this thread and read anyway. and another case in point, i didn't think that my post is so negative. it's not like I told everyone that Miley is a trashy, **bleep** girl. have you read anything like that on my post? so yea. we're all adults so I assume we all know how to respect each and everyone's opinion.

 

bottomline, don't expect everyone to have the same line of thinking as yours. learn to respect differences.

 

and lastly, i apologize if any body got offended with this thread. i'm just trying to start a conversation. Smiley Happy

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CzaCee, when I read your initial post, you are saying that the video is disturbing and what's up with the behavior.  You are concerned with the fact that so many teenagers look up to her. When you said that you opened this up to more than just reviewing the video.   I think the responses on this thread clearly reflect what people think of the behavior in the video, on the VMAs and in general.  It's all connected.   Sometimes we start a topic and people respond in a way that we didn't expect. 

If you want to speak specifically about the video this is my reaction- I find it vulgar and distasteful. The video isn't there to enhance the music, it is there to shock you so that you talk about it and buy the music.  I would love ask her to come down off the wrecking ball, hand her a robe, and tell her that she is better than this.  You can be beautiful, free, and sexy and still carry yourself with more dignity than that.  I am not a prude and I am not offended by nudity in the arts but this girl is trying too hard to work out some issues in public.  That is exactly what ran through my mind when I saw the video.

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Garnett - exactly. i was mainly concerned with the video and not generally about Miley Cyrus as a person. i was just a little thrown off when I read somewhere here that this thread was only put up to trash and talk badly about her because really, that's not the purpose.

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Yeah, but think of how many teenage boys want to emulate Robin Thicke - a middle aged married man who has topless girls half his age in a music video - blowing smoke in their faces and treating them like sex objects. 

People should be just as concerned about that. Miley is being sexual, but who is she objectifying? She's just expressing herself. Thicke is disrespecting women - no one is saying anything about that. 

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jennydreadful - hey. no one is stoping you from creating a Sephora discussion about Robin Thicke since you keep on mentioning him.

 

AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD IS TO MAINLY DISCUSS THE MUSIC VIDEO. my gahdd. what part of that don't you understand?

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I haven't watched it, but I will. But lately not all music videos match the song, but I dunno, usually I like stuff that way, well sometimes. lol

I gotta watch it. Smiley Tongue

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P.S. She is getting attention, the attention she craves, and everything she is doing is working.

Be it negative or not, her name is there in the top searches, to her it's a victory.

 

Plus I always believe Sex Sells, you can't stop it, it's a great money maker. Just saying Smiley Happy

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I remember when Madonna was doing similar and even worse stufff.  Hopefully Miley's current phase will pass as well. 

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This behavior in all whether it be in the video or on stage,she's not doing anything more than Madonna or Lady Gaga did to make sure that no one forgets who they are and she's done just that,everyone is still talking. She's not the first to act this way and she won't be the last. This is just my personal opinion.

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i'm not even too sure if she was the one who said this, but it seems really accurate to me. i feel bad for her actually. i don't think she's trying to break away from hannah montana, shes just not that person anymore, shes like what 20? she did that show was she was 17, if you havent changed at all since you were 17 then you deserve a medal. Granted, i didnt want to see her at the VMA's with no clothes on, i could just look away, No ones making you watch her, and i don't mean that offensivly at all, but its a choice you make.

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Yup! I think she started HM when she was 13/14? I forget where i was reading the whole publicity is still better than no publicity. I actually thought her first song was catchy and the wrecking ball is a lot better where it actually shows off her vocals. The video is definitely a whole different thing. The VMA's was crazy and even i thought that was over the top. and i like lady gagas performances. but who cares right

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