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I'm sure I'll get backlash, but I have to say it.

The past couple of days have really made me rethink the integrity of this forum.

 

There have been numerous posts from new members or special guests wanting genuine answers to their concerns, and I have seen many sarcastic remarks made towards them about their questions. Yes, they may be repetitive but these are people too.  Everyone has feelings and I don't think it's fair to make fun of someone because they may have asked the same question another person may have asked an hour ago, or a year ago. Sometimes people come in here not to browse, but to specifically only want an answer to their question.  They don't come in here to search for an answer, but to get one.

 

It isn't fair to make a smart remark regarding their questions or inserting an ignorant picture meme. When that person comes back to check for an answer they are viewing this and probably getting their feelings hurt; which may ultimately lead to the demise of BeautyTalk. They will not feel the need to come back or even want to be involved in a place like this. I realize that some people do have a certain sense of humor, but take into account other peoples feelings before posting a 'funny' picture or a smart remark. It may even make them feel like they don't want to make a purchase from Sephora. We don't know how other people think and what they feel. Shouldn't we try to be a little more compassionate and understanding?

 

With a lot of these new posts, we're not sure how old the person is. They could be 12 up to 60. Wouldn't you feel bad if your 13 year old daughter was asking a legit question in a forum and got rude responses? Before we post things, I think we should think first how someone would feel.

 

I really feel like this is high school again with certain clicks judging other new people. Everyone was new at some point and we're all guilty of doing certain things that are plainly stated we shouldn't do in the BeautyTalk Rules. I made a thread before about how excited I was about BT and how I wish sales associates would have told me about BT and got many comments about how many don't like it shared. Is this what we do when we don't want to share? Push them away with bitter, cutting remarks or taunting? Again, some people may not 'get' your sarcasm. There is a time and place for that and a newcomers thread isn't that place.

 

I was new at one point, only a couple months ago, so I am still relatively new. I understand that by posting this, I am probably setting myself up for some nasty PM's or will no longer be accepted in this world. But, ultimately I want to express my feelings because I do have such a strong passion about this subject. I was once bullied in high school and when I see certain comments or posts, it brings back bad memories and I empathize with the person whom its directed towards. It's just not fair to do some of the things that have been going on the past couple of days. Treat others how you would wish to be treated.

 

If I'm not welcome in here anymore by speaking my mind, I will at least bow out knowing that I did what was right.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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No one came in here with pitch forks and torches taking prisoners and putting their heads on pikes.  It was all in fun-fun that we were having with each other.  No one wanted to hurt anyone. Maybe it got a bit carried away but NO MALICE was involved.  No one was bullying or berating any individuals. When we saw this post we took it seriously and said we didn't mean any harm and last night was not going to be an ongoing thing.  That was sincere.  To  vilifying the participants is wrong. You don't ask people to come on and play nice and then beat them with a stick like a pinata.   A point was made.  The point was taken.  It doesn't require any further drama.  

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Brava, Garnett!

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Garnett, I don't know if you look anything like your avatar, but I keep imagining a woman with a sleek bob and perfectly applied lipstick with this sort of "Get it? Got it? Good!!" attitude. I love it! Smiley Very Happy

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LOL  Actually It's pretty close except that my neck is not long and graceful like hers.  Smiley Very Happy

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This thread has disgusted me. I don't like the accusations and the shaming and the lecturing. Smell you later. Smell you later forever.

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Thank you for being brave enough to say what some of us have kept to ourselves! I am sure no-one was being intentionally mean-spirited, but it is difficult to tell sometimes when all you see is words on a screen. I am really sad you got a mean PM directed at you, but applaud you for letting it slide. You seem like a wonderful and positive person and I hope you don't let anyone get you down! <3

 

I can understand why someone might not use the search bar. Sometimes people simply come to the forum to ask a specific question with NO knowledge that their question has been asked many times, or think that it's weird to add their question to someone else's- "Oh, btw, I also have brown eyes but my hair is blue, what would work for me guys??". When I first found the forum, I actually had no idea that it had been around a while, and so people have talked about the same thing many many times before.

 

I think reminding people to use the search bar was a great idea, but some people just took it a little far (even though I understand completely that it was all in jest). I really hate the search bar, and even the advanced search doesn't help much. So many times I want to find something and simply give up. There have been times I have been afraid to post for fear of people thinking I'm being repetitive and getting rude about it. For the most part though, I think everyone has been nice and welcoming, I just want to say, let's give everyone a chance! It's annoying to see those repetitive newcomer posts, I agree, but it may just be something we have to deal with. I hope the mods will figure something out, such as adding a note at the top of the forum like: "Please try using the search bar for your questions, and if you don't find your answer, make a new thread about it!"

 

Just my two cents Smiley Happy

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Just to clarify, because I've seen people addressing the mean pm sent to jenjen, no one actually sent her a pm before posting this thread (tell me if I'm wrong jenjen, I'm going off of the assumption that people are misreading this part of your thread "I understand that by posting this, I am probably setting myself up for some nasty PM's or will no longer be accepted in this world." saying you foresee pm's coming, not that you had actually received one.)

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She did actually receive one in response to her post in another thread.

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Someone got their feelings hurt on the internet....Really how old are all of you?? Not sure I want any advice with people like this. Seems to me a lot hypocrites after reading all of these. Just a newcomer's observation. 

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LOL.  I always love responses like this.

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I mentioned this in another post but:

 

"I was thinking we could make a handy list of frequently asked questions/concerns that links to other popular threads. I've made a post about this, I hope you guys think it's a good idea and want to add on! "

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Bump bumpity bump bump bump. I love this idea!

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Hooray! The post is here: http://community.sephora.com/t5/Off-Topic/Master-Thread-Link-Post/td-p/1133711

 

Hopefully we'll get more contributions!

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i see this everywhere... 

 

"blah blah blah, mean girls are mean, nice girls are nice. you suck, mean girls, because you are mean!" but really, the "mean girls" are just goofing off and not trying to hurt anyone, or single them out. however, the "nice girls" are absolutely singling the "mean girls" out, shaming them for whatever it is that they did/said and in doing so, becoming major hypocrites. nothing good ever comes of these threads. in fact, though intentions are good, the threads tend to spark major animosity that just was not there before. 

 

i'd rather be a mean girl who owns my snarkiness, knowing that i am not intentionally hurting anyone, just enjoying myself with a group of ladies that i have come to love, than a nice girl who looks down on everyone who does not adhere to her personal ideals on how people should behave. 

 

aaaaaaaaand that's all i have to say about that. 

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This is the internet. I'm sure that most people with the tiniest bit of common sense know that if they don't like something they can just ignore it and move along. There is no need to shame people that have a different sense of humor to yours or that think differently to you. It's called diversity of personalities. 

 

You were bullied in high school? So was I. Who wasn't? High school is an evil place.

 

You've succeeded in creating a ridiculous amount of unnecessary drama with this thread. You were pretty much begging for backlash with the title that you gave it. I'm not sure which mod quit and appointed you boss of judging people?

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I understand that I had some participation in this and I want to clarify several things. I never had malicious intent, the humor was not meant to be directed at anybody specific, I post answers to newbie's questions often and love doing so, and I love BT. I'm sincerely sorry that people's feelings were hurt, and I did apologize on the original thread  Smiley Sad :

http://community.sephora.com/t5/Off-Topic/Please-check-the-SEARCH-bar-for-your-problem-before-postin...

 

Hearts everywhere! 

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I log onto BT today and all I see is this: 

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I say, all you bickering ladies man up and fight it out to the death --- gladiator styled:

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So what say you? Let the games begin! Oh and...
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xoxo

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hahahaha!!! dying!!!

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