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Bite Beauty gaffe

Hasn't anyone noticed that Bite Beauty has named one of their Lush Fruit Lip Gloss's "Strangefruit"?  Isn't anyone else disturbed by this?

 

Strange Fruit, since no one seems to know, is the title of a famous jazz song sung by Billie Holliday (among many others).  The song is about the lynching of black men in the Jim Crow South, with their bodies being the 'strange fruit' that Southern trees bear.

 

Now I don't know anything about this company, maybe they are not American owned or based, so they don't realize the connotations.  I've told this to several people my own age(late 30's) and older and they were all appalled.  To date I have not seen any sign on Sephora (reviews, product Q&A, or here in BT) that anyone notices or cares. 

 

And that is even more disturbing than the name itself.

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I'm actually disappointed in Bite. Names aren't drawn from a effing hat in corporations like this so I'm not so sure I agree with people claiming ignorance on Bite's behalf. I was pissed/annoyed at KVD when she had Celebrutard. Although, I don't shop KVD's lipsticks and didn't even know about it until Sephora offered it in a promo awhile back. But I was disappointed when I found out and then pissed off at KVD's reaction to the bad press (which was basically: "Eff you guys. It's only a word."). Her reaction made me never shop her line again. It'll be interesting to see if Bite has a response and if so what that response will be. If it's similar to KVD, I will cut them from my shopping list as well. Don't tell me "it's only a word" when I know d@mned well that these "words" were carefully chosen and not just something that haphazardly happened.

 

Words have immense power and I think it's irresponsible to downplay the effect they have. I understand the viewpoint from people that didn't know what those words meant and thinking perhaps that it's not a big deal. I'm willing to entertain the idea of even Bite being ignorant to the connotations of this word. But for the people who know full well the meaning behind those words and still think it's not a big deal... that kind of bothers me. Seriously... strange fruit. If you've ever seen pictures or depictions of what a strange fruit really is, what it means, it should bother you... it should effing haunt you. It represents the most abhorrent and reprehensible behavior that people can inflict on one another.

 

If you're okay with Celebrutard and Strange Fruit, would you be okay with some lipsticks with names like: R@pe Red, Ped0phile Pink, J3w Blood, Native American Tears, Child Murder, Rwanda Genocide Red, etc...? Yes? Then maybe you're a bit of an a-hole. No? Why? Is it only a problem if it's something that bothers you personally?

 

What's the point of names like those? To bring up pain or bad memories for some but not all people? To cause just enough of an outrage to get your product on people's radar? I'm all for marketing and making money, but tactics like this absolutely disgust me. And I wont play along. I wont say that this is Bite's strategy, as Bite has yet to respond to this, but it was absolutely KVD's strategy based on her flippant response to outrage.

 

Sorry this has been so long and a bit angry, but honestly... I'm a bit angry about it. And reading some things that people have wrote on here has made me feel compelled to say something as it's stirred up quite a bit of rage inside me. Hopefully hitting "enter" will make me feel better.

 

*I had to do a decent amount of editing to make this "safe" for BT. I hope the edit doesn't stifle my passion on this subject.

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Well put Killah.

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No, I'm happy to say you got your point and your passion across even with editing! Well said and very honest and fair.

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Brava, very well said.

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Very well put.

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All of the example terms you listed were incredibly straight forward. Those words/terms all have very straightforward definitions. Strange could actually just mean strange and the **bleep** thing was obviously meant towards stupid celebrities not to people who are mentally handicapped. We are officially back to apples vs oranges. At the end of the day no one really cares. I'm more worried about the people who have actually been r@ped then what someone names a lipstick. Don't get me wrong that name would be atrocious and I wouldn't buy it. I just wouldn't get all mad and upset over something stupid. 

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Hmm... celebrutard was obviously meant for celebrities. Okay, and what was it saying about celebrities? Don't explain half of the word and completely drop off the second half if you're going to defend it. Clearly the r-word is tacked to the end of that. That's quite offensive and I'm sure someone with developmental disabilities isn't laughing about it. You're not offended by it? That's great. Good for you. You wouldn't buy a r@pe named lipstick just like I wouldn't buy a celebrutard lipstick OR a r@pe named lipstick. Obviously you're feeling some sort of emotion to make you not want to buy a r@pe lipstick. Seems like the same emotions that make you not want a r@pe lipstick are the same emotions that cause people not to want to buy a strange fruit lipstick. Not so much apples to oranges in that regard...

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If you're not a lawyer, you really should be.

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Thanks, Joeanne! I actually wanted to be a corporate lawyer when I was 6. I imagine I'd end up having to defend these types of issues on the side of the corporations if I were! Smiley Surprised

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Oh no, I see you as one of those maverick lawyers fighting for what's right, and unfortunately never making any money!

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killah is not a lawyer... but she plays one on tv!

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The name Celebutard should have never been on the shelves to begin with! It is degrading and there’s no place for it. You state that, "At the end of the day no one really cares."  But then you backtrack and state that the name is "atrocious."Do yourself a favor and read the responses to this thread, many people care and it appears that you care enough say"...I wouldn't buy it."

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You are being absurd. Just because you might not care about someone using a slur such as r*tard, doesn't mean other people don't. Glamorizing such terms is not a stupid issue. I know lots of people who are called this and it certainly isn't stupid to them. If you are concerned about someone who is actually sexually abused or mentally disabled, then you should care about people using these terms. It is disgusting. I think you need to take a step back, think critically, and put yourself in someone else's shoes.

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I'm really glad everyone quibbling over all the wasted energy over "just a lipstick" is busy doing other more sanctimonious stuff instead of continuing arguing about something they think isn't a big deal...that's a loooot of energy exerted digging yourself into a hole. 

 

 

If you don't care, why are you still here? Just stop.

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You know what? I care. I care enough to comment yet again. This is not apples and oranges and as a black woman I find it absolutely offensive that you can say ridiculous crap Like this continuously. Maybe you need to google a lynching to muster up human emotion which you clearly lack. Racism is a thing. Lynchings still happen. Little black boys still die because they are black. shame on you for having a void where your heart used  to be. Don't round out your rants by saying "no one cares" because people absolutely care. 

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maybe the problem is that not enough people care...or that people like you don't have the sense to care!  this is why this still continues!  this is why my children can't grow up without experiencing these things!  denying them doesn't make them go away, you not caring escalates the problem!

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I tried to stay out of this but your ignorance is profound. Obviously people care, so why not own it and just say you don't care. 

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Neko333-Interesting how you're still here commenting, when 2 pages and 6 hours ago you condemned us all as immature fools with no lives and said you were deleting your account.  If no one cares, I guess I just imagined seeing 8 pages of comments.  

 

I guess Mama never taught you to mean what you say.

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Preach it, Sister.

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Okay, there's a HUGE difference between "Strange Fruit" and "R@pe Red."

 

The latter has a very specific meaning. And while Strange Fruit may be the name of a song about something bad, it could also simply mean a strange fruit. Haven't you ever eaten something and thought, "Well that tastes strange?"

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If I was browsing Bite products and I saw that, it would disturb me.  

 

I don't want to speculate on what the company's motivation was.  What matters now is what they do now that customers have made them aware.  I think it would be fine if they just pulled the products and renamed them.  

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Sephora has a responsibility to, this thread has been a hot topic on their main page now for hours and hours and not one mod has come in and said that they would report the problem to management so they could talk to Bite about it. I mean really, Sephora is selling it and could easily pull the product and ask for it to be renamed!

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they'll be in high demand with the old name on ebay if they get pulled. Lol. So goes the world. 

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Is Urban Decay going to rename their one eyeshadow cause it's called sn@tch? 

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