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Having a SA argue with you?

Does this ever happen to anyone? Okay wait, let me rephrase because that's probably happened to almost everyone here... does anyone have any stories to share when a SA disagrees with you or points out that you're basically, well..wrong about a product?

 

I have a few stories. One time at MAC, I wanted to exchange MAC Brave because it didn't look as great as it did when I tried it out in the store. I told the SA that I didn't like the color because it made my lips look washed out and had a pearly/frosty look to it. " Here's how our conversation went:

Me: I wanted to exchange a lipstick. When I tried it out at home, it looked different and kinda washed me out. Also, there's a bit of a pearly appearance which probably was the cause of making me washed out

SA: Oh no, this has no pearl finish, (swatches on her hand) See, none at all. It looks fine on you.

Me: ........well when I checked the MAC website, the description of the lipstick states "pink-beige with white pearl"

SA: I don't know, but I definitely do not see a white pearl here. (swatches again) I don't see anything at all. It's probably because this is a Satin lipstick.

Me: A satin finish just makes it semi-matte though, it's pearly.. the color itself states that there's white pearl..

SA: No, it's the satin finish. That makes it pearly.  There's no white pearl in the actual lipstick.

Me: .........I just want to exchange this lipstick for MLBB color.

I ended up getting MAC Cosmo. Ugh, that lady was annoying. Tried to sell me some lipliner too.

 

Another one was in Sephora, when I went back to exchange my MUFE Mat Velvet + because it oxidized on me, so I wanted a lighter shade.  I had 45, and wanted to get 35. The lady kept stating that the foundation is oil-free, therefore it does not oxidize, this does not happen, it's "basically impossible." She also kept interrupting me with "No's" when I was saying that I noticed the foundation got darker, and I missed a spot by my outer cheek, near the ear, so I was able to tell that, whoa, my foundation got darker. She also said that I probably got lighter over time after I told her that I just bought the foundation a few days ago. I just wanted to be like, LISTEN B---- and bring out my sassy side LOL

 

Anyone have any frustrating encounters? Haha

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I don't know if this is just me but I feel like a lot SA are super rude about helping their customers. About a month ago, I bought something from the Sephora website using a 20% off sale items. I bought two things on sale and a make up for ever concealer. The concealer that I bought was a bit dark for me so I went a Sephora return it. The price of the concealer was $34 something with tax but they only gave me back $28 something. I didn't realize it until I went home. I had to return the next day to fix this issue. A few SA had to come over to look at my problem and they all claiming that they returned the correct amount. I had to explain the whole situation like 10 times. I sounded like a broken record. Finally the manager came over and called customer service and resolved the whole issue. I was returned the correct amount to me. I spent almost an hour in the store. I would have been SUPER pissed if I didn't received the amount I paid. Not to be mean or anything but I swear something SAs don't know how to do they job.

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All I can say ladies is this, if a SALES ASSOCIATE is RUDE or NASTY with me at ANY COUNTER or STORE, I IMMEDIATLY look up the offending persons employers website and report them and EXACTLY what they did ( never leave without getting a name or employee number if you can off a name badge ) I let them know I will no longer be spending my monthly money shopping with them, online or in store unless something is done and I am advused of what corrective actions have been taken. Yes, people have lost their jobs/been demoted because of me but I also have been sent gift cards as an apology.

Do not feel bad, I bet if you acted like the horrible woman did , they would go out of their way to ruin your job!

 ( I know, I used to work in the Music World...I was an Exec. before becomeing disabled way too soon!

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I always make a point of asking them what their name is. Just to make sure they know that I am not letting the issue go. 

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I had to lash out like I did at irresponsible, loud, rude, snotty, and obnoxious Sales associates earlier like that because I have seen them, ones I knew for 15 years that treated me like gold, then the next time they saw me , before coming back to ohio, snub me like trash because I was paralyzed from the waiste down and was no longer the high end money hogging Music Exec, that I had been. Lets move to Christmas, 2013, Beechwood Mall, Cleveland, Ohio. I live a TOTALLY different life now, My husband had lost his job at General Motors as a Supervisor due to "cut backs" after being there close to 20 years, right out of highschool. I have learned to walk and they found it a miracle that a doctors group at L.A. Central said I was paralyzed from the waist down and would never walk again.I get to Ohio with my child, I attempt suicide on my birthday....I dont remember much but woke up from a coma, apparently it was a 5 week coma, looking at the television in front of me..Talladega Nights was playing...and start scraming because I didnt know if I was in heaven, heck, or dead. I was alive and suddenly a room full of white coats were trying to prod and poke me, I remember it was dark out and I felt like I had to urinate...SURPRISE...I am not paralyzed! Within months I could walk and I do walk ( it just looks as if I have had a stroke on my left side, except my face is untouched - 1 scar where the top of my lip was ripped in half ) I went out and the bad scars they did their best to cover with plastic surgery are now covered with beautiful tattoos and flesh colored ink so they cant be seen. Anyway, Christmas 2013, My Jeep Commander broke down ( mind you, I have 1/16 of the money I used to make..the guy who caused the accent outside Modesto was on meth, in a stolen semi, had no insurance, and after it was all said and done I walked away with just enough to pay med bills, thank the paramedic who brought me back to life 3 times, and purchase a house in rural ohio where my family originated -there are only a handfull of us left on this earth now...but anyway, I can drive a hand controlled car, my Jeep was being fixed so I had no choice to get out my 1977 trans-am my grandad left me. I parked in the first handicapped spot in front of SAKS  because I wanted to return a pair of Versace Jeans tht were 3 sizes too big. I was wearing my winter boots, Hollister Sweatpants and Hoodie with a black leather biker jacket over my clothes.I had my Medium Black and White Gingham Dooney and Bourke Purse and a Pink Cleveland Browns Cap with my ponytail pulled thru the adjustable back. I walked into Saks and IMMEDIATLY 6 sales associates started following me, I had a SAKS bad, with the jeans and a receipt I wanted to return. I got near a counter and turned around - ALL OF THE SALES ASSOCIATES TURNED AWAY AND PRETENDED TO DO SOMETHING TO SALE ITEMS BY THE REGISTER. I could hear them snickering at me and staring when they thought I was not looking. I asked for assistance and 3 walked away from me like they had not heard me.I headed farther into SAKS, towards the Mens department. I was met at the counter by a man who said Hello, I handed the receipt and jeans and he started to ask me odd questions why I wanted to return them, here he was waiting on a security guard AND a Beechwood,Ohio Police Officer. I told the officer why I was there, I showed him the receipt and jeans, he handed them back to me with the bag and said he was so sorry but I had to leave the store and the mall in general because I "bothered " the Sales Associates. I left in tears, I could tell he was not happy doing his job but had no choice. I drove home , over 3 hours, in tears. I sent them with my friend to a SACKS in Columbus, Ohio to exchange them for me when she got off work as a Highschool English Teacher. I was judged by my clothes, the car - wich is a very beautiful car-and unfirtunatly, my disability. This is whu I am now VERY HARD on associates that do not come off as genuinly nice from the first moment I lay eyes on them or hear their voice.

I appologize for such a rant earlier, but I wanted all you ladies out there to know why. I buy alot of high end items still, why do I always have to look as if I wlked out of a business meeting or salon for a night at SOHO.

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that's so awful and vile and just horribly discriminatory. i hope you contacted the management of the store because i don't even know if that's legal - to discriminate and refuse to serve somebody on the basis of their disability violates the equal protection laws doesn't it?

 

i am very very sorry that happened to you.

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If some SAs at Saks were really that horrible to you, it's really not a valid reason to be "VERY HARD" (your words) on others. You should have reported it to Saks corporate, not punish everyone else in every other store from then on. 

 

Yes I know you say you are only "VERY HARD" if they "do not come off as genuinly nice from the first moment I lay eyes on them or hear their voice" (again your words) but a great deal of that could merely be your own perception, no?

 

Not to mention PEOPLE work in retail, not robots. People have emotions. What if they were just chewed out by another customer over something out of their control, their cat died that morning, and they had a throbbing killer toothache? Hard to conjure up an INSTANT smile and GENUINE niceness after a day like that, don'tcha think? And if their happy act isn't convincible enough to you, you're ok with getting them fired and getting yourself a free giftcard? Just... wow.

 

If someone truly mistreats you in a store then take it to corporate, don't shop there anymore, or just kill 'em with kindness.

 

Life's short, just be a nice person. 

 

 

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I think her opinion on SAs is more than justified after the way she was treated. How would you like it if you were confronted by security and asked to leave a store just because you have a disability? Please look at things from her point of view, because I'm sure you would do the same thing if you were treated so horribly too. I don't see any harm in her being hard on SAs, because it's not like she's "getting them fired". Yes, not all SAs are bad, but I would do the same thing if I were her. Her story is truly heartbreaking, and my heart goes out to her. I hope she never has to suffer such gross discrimination again.

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Actually yeah, she did say in a post above, "Yes, people have lost their jobs/been demoted because of me but I also have been sent gift cards as an apology."

 

I didn't say it was nice how they treated her at Saks. Discrimination and false assumption.

I just think it's not fair to punish all future SAs for something they didn't do. That is also discrimination and false assumption.

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I would have just sued Saks. Seriously. What a rotten thing to do. 

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I know this is a couple months old but I do think this needs to be said: It is not just you and unfortunately it happens all the time, regardless of the disability. Regardless of their exact reasons, they had no right to have treated you so unfairly and I would be willing to bet that it would have resulted in a totally different outcome if just one had approached you and offered help or had given it when you asked. 

 

When I worked in retail in the past and knew certain of my coworkers unfortunately did this kind of thing routinely, I would go out of my way to offer help an individual with a disability because I knew that chances are, most others I worked with back then would not. Please understand, it is not out of any kind of prejudice that I do so because that is not the case. I do it because I know what it is like to be in the same position trying to find help only to find that nobody will look past my disabilities long enough to do so.

 

I do also agree with another poster in one point though. Having worked retail I will say that, yes, it can be hard at times to be perky, pretty and cheerful with a grin plastered on 24/7. I am realistic and I know bad days do happen, so do long or tiring days. I do not expect every single associate I meet in every place I visit to have a giant Joker type of grin pasted on their faces every single minute of every single day. That being said, a polite greeting and helpful recommendation when I approach them goes a long way, and in the end, whether they could still do their job or not and whether they can do it without alienating potential customers is what matters. I can only hope that if you ever do step foot in that store again, management will have figured out the same things and have replaced those judgmental SAs with individuals who actually know how to do their jobs.