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The Cruelty-Free thread: dupes, discussion & news!

Madeline7 — Fri, 05 Jan 2018 00:37:56 GMT

Please visit the up to date thread here:

https://community.sephora.com/t5/Makeup-Is-Life/The-cruelty-free-thread-dupes-discussion-and-news-part-II/m-p/2836235#M6261

Thanks! 🙂

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veronika23 — Wed, 05 Jul 2017 22:43:46 GMT

Thanks so much for starting this thread! I was just thinking this morning I needed to find proper resources for this. 🙂

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Madeline7 — Wed, 05 Jul 2017 22:43:48 GMT

I'll start this off with a dupe request. Since Nars is no longer cruelty free, I'd love to find a dupe of the Nars Orgasm liquid blush that isn't tested on animals. Thanks in advance! 🙂

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purly — Wed, 05 Jul 2017 22:51:53 GMT

I think Glossier is cruelty free and they have some liquid blushes, but I don't own them and don't know if they are a color match for orgasm.

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Madeline7 — Wed, 05 Jul 2017 22:59:34 GMT

Glossier is cruelty free! Thanks for the suggestion!

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NikkoBT — Wed, 05 Jul 2017 23:03:08 GMT

Awesome thread @Madeline7!

I love using CrueltyFreeKitty to find out if I'm purchasing cruelty free products. Not all of the items I have are cruelty free, because I do receive a lot of product to test, but when I'm making purchases I definitely like to try to be as cruelty free as possible. Peta's website is also a great resource for finding not only beauty products, but cruelty free household products as well.

I also like to make sure that the company doesn't distribute their products to other countries that require animal testing, or that their parent company does not test on animals. I know it's not really their fault if another country has laws in which animal testing must take place, but it makes it hard for me to believe in a companies morals and mission if they don't commit 100%. I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts. 🙂

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Anonymous — Wed, 05 Jul 2017 23:04:32 GMT

Thank you for this thread! It's nice to have all of the brands located in one post 😄

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Madeline7 — Wed, 05 Jul 2017 23:13:05 GMT

There are so many grey areas! It can be challenging knowing where to draw the line.

I try not to support companies that sell in mainland China, because staying out of the market in theory would put pressure on the government to change their animal testing policies.

On the other hand, I haven't been avoiding products owned by non-CF companies. I don't like that my money bubbles up to companies that test on animals, but I'm undecided on that issue because if you start looking at any companies funding you're going to find something you don't like if you go far enough down. There are so few brands not owned by Estee Lauder/Shiseido/etc these days...part of me also hopes that if these CF sub-brands do well, it will encourage them to expand that policy to their other brands? I'm still mixed on this issue...

My one big exception to acquiring products tested on animals is that I will buy them second-hand. Overproduction is one of the tougher issues facing the environment so to some extent I'd feel better purchasing a non-CF product second hand than a CF product brand new. (There are some products I wouldn't buy second hand, however...)

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NikkoBT — Wed, 05 Jul 2017 23:31:25 GMT

Ughhh I know...I definitely have mixed feelings, but I do try my best 🙂

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unfungirl — Wed, 05 Jul 2017 23:38:37 GMT

yay, thanks for starting this thread! i always love to chat about CF brands, and i love logical harmony and CFK. Colourpop, Looxi, Herbivore, Drunk Elephant and Verb are some other brands I adore 🙂

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darkiceis — Wed, 05 Jul 2017 23:49:51 GMT

Thank you for starting this thread!

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Debbiy — Thu, 06 Jul 2017 01:15:45 GMT

I think that Drunk Elephant is also cruelty-free

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Debbiy — Thu, 06 Jul 2017 01:19:38 GMT

Can someone clarify Sephora Collection's cruelty free stance?

Their statement of testing on animals when needed sounds ambiguous because then we could assume that 1. they're still testing on animals anyways and 2. if they sell all their products in China, then wouldn't they be testing all of their products on animals.

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Madeline7 — Thu, 06 Jul 2017 01:37:23 GMT

Sephora's makeup line isn't CF under most definitions because they test their products on animals when those products are sold in China, if that answers your question?

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Indy701 — Thu, 06 Jul 2017 02:53:28 GMT

It is hard to draw the line sometimes. I choose CF samples but sometimes Sephora switches them out or just adds them. I don't want the samples but I don't want to give them to someone else who may then want to support that company. Ugh. Benefit is the biggest annoyance as everyone seems to be giving away their products.

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magicmonkiee — Thu, 06 Jul 2017 06:10:11 GMT

Thank you for starting this thread!! I love buying cruelty free! I just purchased the Perricone MD No Blush Blush. I was going to buy the Nars liquid blush but now they aren't cruelty free.

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veronika23 — Thu, 06 Jul 2017 12:14:42 GMT

@Madeline7 I just wanted to say that according to crueltyfreekitty Natasha Denona is cruelty free. Some of her stuff is vegan but not all. But she is CF.

A bit of what she posted:

Finished products tested on animals: No
Ingredients tested on animals: No
Suppliers test on animals: No
Third party animal testing: No
Tested on animals where required by law: No
Sold in mainland China: No
Certifications: None
Parent company: None

Maybe you want to add to the list? Thx!

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vegchililover78 — Thu, 06 Jul 2017 13:36:46 GMT

PETA also has a comprehensive list of cruelty free companies. I've had great experiences with Petit Vour and Vegan Cuts subscription boxes, they both offer cruelty free beauty samples (and sometimes full size products)! The exposure to new brands has been great!

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sulfate — Thu, 06 Jul 2017 18:30:35 GMT

I adore their cloud paint blushes. HG for me!

I have dusk and puff. Puff is definitely a lighter color than orgasam and it's pinker. I bet the combo of the two might be great. There is no shimmer though. If you want, I can mix them and post a photo if you'd like. Just let me know.

People love or hate RMS, but I personally love them. Their colors are really easy to mix to create something custom

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killersandliars — Thu, 06 Jul 2017 17:30:15 GMT

Phyrra is also a great blogger who focuses on CF products. She posts about a lot of things that are high end as well as different indie brands and offers a lot of insight into how to go CF. She makes YouTube videos too.