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    <title>topic Re: kat von d ludwig and bow n arrow in Beauty Confidential</title>
    <link>https://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Confidential/kat-von-d-ludwig-and-bow-n-arrow/m-p/4107209#M31719</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Dang girl! For only awaking up an hour ago you look great! Do you use an overnight eye mask??&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.sephora.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/240615"&gt;@WyattAva23&lt;/a&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;To&amp;nbsp;piggy back off what&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.sephora.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1798047"&gt;@bakeamuffin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;said though, these sorts of shades really do pull&amp;nbsp;from your naturally coloring and dry down looking&amp;nbsp;different on everyone, and it's not just KVDs liquid&amp;nbsp;lipsticks. I find ColourPop, Too Faced Melted Mattes, and&amp;nbsp;Stila Stay All Day do the same thing. If you can go in store to swatch, it would be best. You were wondering about SC dupe for one of&amp;nbsp;these shades too, right? Looking for a good dupe&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;should done in person as well.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't own either of these ELL shades, but I own 3 others in the "nude" range, Lolita, Lolita 2, and Hawkwind, including a couple of pinks, and the undertone really does pull different on me than what is swatched.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I hope you find an ELL shade you love! It is a great formula.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2018 17:14:23 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>alexasteph</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-08-05T17:14:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>kat von d ludwig and bow n arrow</title>
      <link>https://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Confidential/kat-von-d-ludwig-and-bow-n-arrow/m-p/4106239#M31715</link>
      <description>how do these compare in the liquid lipsticks? im very fair skinned</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2018 00:14:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Confidential/kat-von-d-ludwig-and-bow-n-arrow/m-p/4106239#M31715</guid>
      <dc:creator>WyattAva23</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-05T00:14:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: kat von d ludwig and bow n arrow</title>
      <link>https://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Confidential/kat-von-d-ludwig-and-bow-n-arrow/m-p/4106712#M31716</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ludwig is more pinkier than Bow and Arrow.&amp;nbsp; Bow and Arrow has more of a mauve tone to it.&amp;nbsp; Bone and Arrow is slighlty darker than Ludwig.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think both would look great on fair skin.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I agree that it depends on your natural lip color when you wear any lipstick or lipgloss. &amp;nbsp; The color can look different on every person. The only way to find out is to get a sample of it or try it in store. I know Sephora had Ludwig as a promo code.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Here are pictures from Temptalia’s website.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="Ludwig" style="width: 461px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.sephora.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1126305i021A73ECF1F47AC7/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="9F0061C1-74AE-42D1-A390-4CE8514BFD81.png" alt="Ludwig" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;Ludwig&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="Bow and Arrow" style="width: 461px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.sephora.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1126306i210A7742110F2997/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="AF0FB779-10CC-4125-BCA3-E00BADF56A52.png" alt="Bow and Arrow" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;Bow and Arrow&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2018 17:38:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Confidential/kat-von-d-ludwig-and-bow-n-arrow/m-p/4106712#M31716</guid>
      <dc:creator>SportyGirly125</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-05T17:38:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: kat von d ludwig and bow n arrow</title>
      <link>https://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Confidential/kat-von-d-ludwig-and-bow-n-arrow/m-p/4106929#M31717</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.sephora.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/240615"&gt;@WyattAva23&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have to disagree with &lt;a href="https://community.sephora.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/229737"&gt;@SportyGirly125&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ludwig on the site looks completely different then it looks in person. It's quite brown/nude with very little pink undertones.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2018 13:25:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Confidential/kat-von-d-ludwig-and-bow-n-arrow/m-p/4106929#M31717</guid>
      <dc:creator>GG84</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-05T13:25:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: kat von d ludwig and bow n arrow</title>
      <link>https://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Confidential/kat-von-d-ludwig-and-bow-n-arrow/m-p/4107062#M31718</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Ludwig doesn’t look like that on me at all, the photo you shared looks more like how Lolita looks on me&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.sephora.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/229737"&gt;@SportyGirly125&lt;/a&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;. On my fair skin, ludwig looks more like a nude brown with a mauve undertone. It’s interesting how a colour can look so different on each person! I find the ELL to be a little tricky that way, the different skin undertones seem to pull out different shades &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":smiling_face_with_smiling_eyes:"&gt;😊&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I misplaced Bow N Arrow so I can’t accurately depict how that looks on fair skin.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I only woke up an hour ago, and I have no other makeup on &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":hot_beverage:"&gt;☕&lt;/span&gt;️ But here’s how Ludwig looks on me&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.sephora.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/240615"&gt;@WyattAva23&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="“I woke up like this” 😴😄" style="width: 866px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.sephora.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1126336i14737100B4FEA9B9/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="6964BA44-CB95-4EC3-A322-23E671C65A1E.jpeg" alt="6964BA44-CB95-4EC3-A322-23E671C65A1E.jpeg" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="Natural light swatch of Ludwig" style="width: 999px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://community.sephora.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/1126337i8C073DA4BFD1BEB2/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="483AC43B-25B2-4DAC-9C3D-4BDE5F8030F5.jpeg" alt="Natural light swatch of Ludwig" /&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-caption" onclick="event.preventDefault();"&gt;Natural light swatch of Ludwig&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2018 15:38:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Confidential/kat-von-d-ludwig-and-bow-n-arrow/m-p/4107062#M31718</guid>
      <dc:creator>bakeamuffin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-05T15:38:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: kat von d ludwig and bow n arrow</title>
      <link>https://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Confidential/kat-von-d-ludwig-and-bow-n-arrow/m-p/4107209#M31719</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Dang girl! For only awaking up an hour ago you look great! Do you use an overnight eye mask??&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.sephora.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/240615"&gt;@WyattAva23&lt;/a&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;To&amp;nbsp;piggy back off what&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.sephora.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1798047"&gt;@bakeamuffin&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;said though, these sorts of shades really do pull&amp;nbsp;from your naturally coloring and dry down looking&amp;nbsp;different on everyone, and it's not just KVDs liquid&amp;nbsp;lipsticks. I find ColourPop, Too Faced Melted Mattes, and&amp;nbsp;Stila Stay All Day do the same thing. If you can go in store to swatch, it would be best. You were wondering about SC dupe for one of&amp;nbsp;these shades too, right? Looking for a good dupe&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;should done in person as well.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't own either of these ELL shades, but I own 3 others in the "nude" range, Lolita, Lolita 2, and Hawkwind, including a couple of pinks, and the undertone really does pull different on me than what is swatched.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I hope you find an ELL shade you love! It is a great formula.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2018 17:14:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Confidential/kat-von-d-ludwig-and-bow-n-arrow/m-p/4107209#M31719</guid>
      <dc:creator>alexasteph</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-05T17:14:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: kat von d ludwig and bow n arrow</title>
      <link>https://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Confidential/kat-von-d-ludwig-and-bow-n-arrow/m-p/4108187#M31720</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.sephora.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/170569"&gt;@alexasteph&lt;/a&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;you’re so sweet, thank you&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://community.sephora.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/170569"&gt;@alexasteph&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;! I actually do a gentle massage around my eyes each night using DE Marula oil, it really helps with my skin dryness and seems be keeping the area plump as well &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":smiling_face_with_smiling_eyes:"&gt;😊&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2018 03:48:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Confidential/kat-von-d-ludwig-and-bow-n-arrow/m-p/4108187#M31720</guid>
      <dc:creator>bakeamuffin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-06T03:48:13Z</dc:date>
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