Skincare 101: Discussions, Questions and All

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This is a place to discuss everything skincare.

 

- Have a question about a product (Or type of product)

- Need recommendations

- Learned a new tip or trick you want to share with fellow skincare junkies

- New to skincare and lost about where to start

- Have a skincare emergency ( Bad reaction, broken dropper, lost lid of a jar)

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Images From top left to clockwise (Essencz, Garnier, Men's Fitness, Harper Bazaar)

 

We have some great thread about skincare but I feel we don't have a general place to discuss skincare which is open for everything from lowend products to luxury skincare. 

 

Other skincare threads you may like to explore

 

http://community.sephora.com/t5/Ask-The-Experts/All-about-Luxury-skincare-Come-in-and-chat-about-you...

 

http://community.sephora.com/t5/Skincare-Stories/Daily-Skincare-what-are-you-using/m-p/2716765#M8681

 

 

 

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Thanks so much for your advice! I meant to put Sunday Riley Juno oil, not Luna so it doesn't have a retinoid - but you are likely right about the irritation. The glycolic pads have 5% glycolic and the cream has 10% so that is probably a lot for my skin. Do you think it would be okay to use the glycolic pads with the retinol or lactic acid or would you still recommend backing off for a bit? 

I agree about the Goat's Milk moisturizer, I don't think I will repurchase as it isn't my favourite or really all that moisturizing...

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@JilliaPersonally, I would stop exfoliating altogether to give your skin a break. It might sound scary and difficult to give products that you're hoping would help your skin, but when your skin is irritated, continued use will only make it worse.

 

When you start using any of the acids/retinoid, pick ONE and introduce slowly (once a week to see if you react, then up the usage). Then once your skin gets better, you can combine acid and retinol. Introducing one product at a time will also help you pinpoint if certain products are not agreeing with your skin.

 

I really wouldn't combine the glycolic pads with another glycolic or lactic product. Retinol/retinoid with AHA is OK if your skin is used to it--but even though I've been using AHA for 2 years and retinol on and off for the last 2, I still don't apply AHA the same nights I use retinol. My skin (I'm turning 29) will start showing red bumps if I use too much. It also doesn't happen immediately...it takes 1-2 weeks for my skin to get fed up, so it's hard to determine what's causing irritation. I've done this enough to figure out what it is though, so now I know immediately.

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@Jillia I have pretty "tough" skin and I tend to stick with one exfoliant per routine.  AHA and BHA can work together, but stacking glycolic and lactic or multiples of those is a lot for your skin to handle. 

 

If if it were my face I would use the 2% Retinoid twice a week in the evening, no other acids or fun stuff. On the off days I would choose glycolic or lactic. I would go no more often with those things until your skin settles. You'll have to watch how things adjust and determine what sort of changes you see. I think a lot of us have had the idea that a tougher skincare approach was better.  At 35 I have some regrets there. 

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Welcome @Jillia! It looks like you have a nice routine going. I do wonder if your cleansers might be stripping the moisture from your skin, or at a pH high enough to make it sensitive? This is just conjecture, but if your skin is vulnerable after cleansing, any acid/exfoliant/retinol has a greater potential for irritation.

 

One of the things I've found useful from learning about Korean products is that the pH of your cleanser matters. Ideally you want something around 4-5.5. I don't know the pH values of the cleansers you're using, but my guess is they are a bit high. Some that I know are in the "good" range: Cerave Foaming Facial Cleanser, Indie Lee Rosehip Cleanser (the others from her line may not be the same), and CosRx Low pH Good Morning (actually 3.5, but apparently low is better than high.)

 

If you want to venture into more hydrating products, there are a world of options! I particularly like CosRx Snail 96, Missha First Treatment Essence (make sure you're not sensitive to fermented products), and Kypris Antioxidant Dew. May Coop Raw Sauce is very popular (and the small size will last you quite a long time!) 

 

Oils are quickly becoming my favorite secret weapon. I seem to have more leeway with my acids, etc. if I finish with an oil. I don't find Luna to be hydrating, though - it's funny, that seems to be such a love/hate product!

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Ooh, I am actually looking for a better cleanser that I like as I have mostly been using up samples and these sound great and affordable from my research! Thanks for the tip!

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I think I have mentioned it earlier. I want to introduce Retinol and BHA in my skin care routine. I was looking at different strengths of Retinol and want feed back from those who are knowledgeable about it. I want to test the waters with a cheaper products so it isn't a big waste if it doesn't work for me. The Ordinary advance retinoid 2% is the first product I want to try but I am unsure if 2% is too strong or strong enough?

Also any other recommendations for BHA and Retinol are welcome. I will check with my doctor to see if she prescribe me Retinol but till then I want to check some countertop product.

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@fatimamummy I'm just re-entering the world of retinol, and here are some of my favourites. Yes, in general, I think my skin loves all of them!

 

Neutrogena Anti-Wrinkle cream (make sure you get the formula without SPF - In Canada I think this one's called the "Original Formula" which differs from the one in the States, which has SPF. In the US they call their SPF-free formula the "Night" formula. tThis is a very good, inexpensive retinol in cream. Absorbs well and I've had no reaction to it. SLightly moisturizing too. Only cost $16 at SDM!

 

Paula's Choice Anti-Oxidant Serum for Normal/Oily skin (it doesn't state % of retinol and is in the middle of the list) - I dipped my toes in the world of retinol with this product in 2015. It took my skin time to tolerate it, it did great things for my skin

 

Paula's Choice Clinical 1% Retinol Treatment - I really liked this. I didn't have any issues with it not absorbing properly but I would typically skip my face cream (final step) if I'm using this since this comes in a lotion consistency.

 

PTR 3% Retinoid - this is the "gentler" derivative of retinol, I'm currently using this and it's made my skin super soft, smooth and bright. I hope the fading of marks will come in months' time. This one's in 3% vs. the 2% max concentration I've seen for retinol, probably because this is actually a retinoid rather than retinol.

 

DDG Ferulic Serum - this one is AMAZING. Wow. I only have a sample of it, but I dotted it on a stubborn but (thankfully) fairly tiny papule/cyst near my mouth and it brought it down significantly overnight. When I use it all over my face overnight, my face glows the next morning. 

 

 

I don't think you'll find OTC retinol higher than 2% (I might be wrong). If I see something higher than 2%, I'd be skeptical If your skin doesn't respond to the standard 2% you might need to get a prescription for something stronger!

 

I tried Luna and my skin doesn't hate it, but doesn't love it either. I sometimes use my deluxe sample for days when I'm using a stronger AHA so I'm skipping retinol. 

 

I've also tried PTR 1.5% PM Fusion--it was good, but I like the ones I listed better.

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Thank you. For detailed review on so many great products @k617 It is very helpful. I think I am going to start with Ordinary 2% Retinoid and will see where it takes me. DDG serum is another product I get frequently recommended so it is on my "Get a sample to try" list.

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Thank you @k617 @lachaton Paula's Choice BHA liquid sounds like a promising product. I never tried anything from this brand so I think it is going to be a first.

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You're welcome @fatimamummy! Also I forgot to mention I use Paula's Choice BHA 2% liquid, have been since 2015 and I'm probably on my 4th? or 5th? bottle. I haven't tried many others but I really love this product. I feel like it really does contribute to keeping my skin smooth and glowy. I still get breakouts, so it isn't a miracle product for clearing pimples, but who doesn't? Smiley Wink

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@fatimamummy @k617 seconding the rec for PC BHA 2%. Works so well for me - I really do see a difference when I stop using it and start up again. I've gone through I think 8 bottles. 

 

I want to try out The Ordinary SA next and see how it compares.

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One bottle lasts so long @lachaton, I tend to re-buy when I'm down to the last 1/8 or so, and still don't need to open the new one until months later!

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I use Paula's Choice 1% retinol and it is the best I have tried so far.  I use it every other night without any bad reaction (I recommend avoiding the eye area).

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@kariyava I haven't tried any Paula's choice product but keep hearing about the brand. I'll sure look into it. Thank you 🙂

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@fatimamummy - I use the Ordinary's 2% retinoid. I have sensitive, combo, breakout prone skin and this did not bother me at all. In fact, I use it every night. If it is the first retinoid/retinol product you have tried I would probably start with only a couple of times a week and build up from there. I haven't had any breakouts due to adding it into my routine (stress and a new sheet mask - yes Smiley Sad ), but I find it helps things clear up a bit quicker using this at night. Also, I use it at night since retinoids/retinols increase sensitivity to sunlight - so make sure to protect your skin from the sun when using Smiley Happy

 

I also tried Luna - disaster! I broke out so much from that, and I have used the REN bioretinoid oil as well and am just meh about it. I actually really like the Ordinary retinoid and will be repurchasing it as well as some other Ordinary goodies (they are on the way!)

 

 

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It is good to know that Ordinary Retinoid is working well for your sensitive skin @Zpsid91 My skin isn't particularly sensitive (I rarely get bad results action but when I do, it leaves behind it marks for a long time) So I think it will be a good product for me as well.

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@fatimamummy Just today my order from the Ordinary arrived, with the 2% retinoid in it.  I think we have somewhat different skin types but once I've used it a bit I can give you my thoughts. 

 

I also don't love Luna. Years ago I tried Roc (drugstore) and thought it did nothing. I used Paula's Choice for six months or so, and I think it's a useful retinol. I just couldn't stand the greasy/creamy formula that never seemed to fully sink in.

 

I also have DDG Ferulic/retinol serum on the way. I have high hopes for that one because I've had such good results from the DDG Ferulic/retinol peel pads. Those I highly recommend!

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@fairlywell I think Luna is a complete hit or miss product with no middle ground.

I use PMD once a week so I can't use a chemical peel with it on regular basis ( Though I use REN GRR mask and Philosophy peel on occasions but then I adjust the timing between these products and PMD) 

I think I a, going to place an order of a few Ordinary products soon and will be adding their 2% Retinoid in it. 

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PMD is a totally different story! I haven't had a chance to test my new stuff yet - I know you know to buffer with oil/moisture if you aren't sure of the effect. Other readers might not, and chemical burns aren't pretty!

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Just to add some details, I tried SR Luna oil and it was terrible on me. Ren Bioretinoid oil was good but didn't produce any visible results. Currently I am dealing with some tiny bumps on my face mostly chin which appeared when I started using PTR cloud cream. I also notice a blemish forming on my left cheek just below my cheek bone. It doesn't show much in the picture but I can see it is there.

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Too many new products at once and I woke up with either red puffy irritation or chemical burns under my eyes.  I typically use a retinol so I don't think it's that.  I wonder if two products combined and created a reaction or if I'm allergic to something?