krunce

Why do we put on make up?

Sephora Beauty Talk has a really vibrant and encouraging make up, skincare and hair care community of thoughtful individuals. I've been asking myself this question as soon as it occured to me to put make up on, and I've been doing it on and off for years. And it just occured to me to pose the question the community. My regime has stabilized in the past few years, and I'm not racked with the guilt that I once was when I was in art school in Montreal, and wondered if I was participating in an anti-feminist attempt to conform to an unrealistic ideal for female beauty that disempowers us.

I no longer feel that way, but I'm unsure as to how I feel. My friends and I regularly joke, when we shop for make up or clothing together, about how our boyfriends and husbands don't like certain things we buy and wear. We say "Yes, but this ____[insert highlighter yellow nailpolish, tangerine lipstick, black and white checkered pants, etc. here]____ is for girls, not for boys." I feel as though there is an alternative and aesthetically oriented community of individuals who take clothing and make up tremendously seriously, not because they're trying to make themselves look more like a disempowering ideal of Photoshoped beauty, but because they are a part of an alternative community that takes this seriously and competitively in the same way that one might take videogames, basketball, or politics seriously (but of course, this doesn't bar us from taking any or all of those seriously as well!).

For me, sometimes make up does become an unhealthy way of labouring over a dismorphic notion that my undereye bags are crippling. Sometimes it's a way of making myself conform to unrealistic ideals I have for how my skin or my hair should look. It does give me confidence, but does that confidence simply steel me against my own sense that I only inadequately match up to ideals of beauty that I didn't contribute to or create? More positively, I often feel that I wear make up because I enjoy it, it spices up my day in a way that isn't related to beauty or ideals or confidence, and I'm not doing it to be a more spicey sexual object, but for purely aesthetic purposes.

Well... that was rambling. What do you all think?

makeupmaven

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I'm 100% hooked on Perricone's Metabolic Formula (I don't follow his diet but do try to eat as much fish/ nutrient rich food as possible). I take 2 packettes a day with meals (rather than the 3 a day for 10 days per his regimen) to make them last a little longer.

 

I had tried these before but bought some specifically for a trip to Maui (didn't want to experience tummy ache on the plane due to the hours/ food/ swelling) because I really wanted to look great in a bikini (I work out but I'm a curvy girl), and they also help your skin/ mood. I wouldn't tout it as literally an "anti-depressant" but the balance of fatty acids definitely gives you what you need to feel happy and digest your food properly. The CLA also helps you to feel full faster. I took 3 a day while I was there/ traveling.

 

Once I realized how much they helped, I've been on them ever since. A lot easier than trying to get the right balance on your own (and actually cheaper really considering the quality).

 

I also take Holy Basil to combat cortisol/ the inflammatory response, and make smoothies w/ spirulina and coconut oil (+ fruit, greek yogurt).

 

Really getting into cooking, just trying to seek out the best ingredients...I feel just as good doing that as I do taking care of myself other ways (including skincare/ supplements, and makeup). Also yoga and acupuncture.

SeraK

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Hear, hear! The best thing you can do for your skin and hair is eat well, drink lots of water, and a multivitamin never hurt. 

emmaclaire

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I really enjoyed reading that.  Thank you so much for posting your thoughts, it was a great way to get a very interesting discussion started!

 

I wear makeup because I feel empowered by deciding what other people will see when they look at my face.  I don't wear makeup all the time, only when I feel like it - although that is quite often and I do wear quite a lot.  I don't even really attempt to do the "no makeup makeup" because I don't care about that.  I'm creating a face that I feel like having that day, that moment, and it's the way I feel like looking.  That makes me feel pretty powerful, and I suppose it makes me feel beautiful to know I have the ability and the opportunity to recreate myself if I feel like it.

 

I also feel beautiful when I'm not wearing makeup, because makeup does not define my facial structure - it's an art to me, and I use it to express how I'm feeling or what I want to put into the world that day.  But I don't wear makeup to hide (ok, I wear concealer to hide pimples because I have a tendency to pick and I don't like how purple they look on my super pale skin) because I don't think there is anything wrong with my face that would need me to change it.

 

I guess, I wear makeup because I can, because I apply it well, because I love all the different beautiful colors and effects and artistry makeup involves, and because I truly enjoy the process.

 

I'm proud to call myself a feminist, and I'm proud to say that my look ain't natural, but it is FIERCE :smileywink:

MoreGun89

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Power looks are incredible.  Haggled a $10 discount yesterday, got someone to professionally makeover my senior design website, and met someone to network many more connections with in the area I'll be moving to soon so hopefully I can find work faster!

 

It's all in the hips (makeup)! 

krunce

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I can't heart this reply enough. Empowerment is a wonderful (and I think accurate) way to look at this.

iamaprettylady

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I COMPLETELY understand you in every way. I have not always been a makeup junkie -- in fact my old roomie (who was gay, but not, like, super-femme) joked that I was butcher than he was! But lately I am constantly looking for new colors and ways to wear them. It's just plain fun. Makes me happy when I look in the mirror. It's not for guys, not even for other girls -- just myself.

 

That being said, it's really easy to get obsessive about it, and I have to watch myself or I will spend way too much money.

krunce

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Hahaha. All I can say to that is "ditto"!

ChicDabbler

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Mmmm....that was deeper than I am willing ponder, but basically, it's an industry so there is a dedicated group, but that's just a very specific/narrow population. Some people put on make up because they want to cover some imperfection (same as how some people chose to dress or act a certain way to disguise their flaws), and it's just a matter of outlet. Others, like me, chose to do it because it looks pretty/fun and I feel like it. When I first start to be obsessed with fashion/make up, I want to buy/collect everything, but then I realized that 1)I am NOT in the industry therefore does not NEED to keep up with the trend or get the newest status item now and 2) I am an escapist where whenever I encounter a difficult/depressing situation or am stressed, I can find five thousand excuse to do something else instead of dealing with the problem, so most of the time it turns into browsing every single products Sephora offers and playing around with my stash. Therefore, I now tell myself "no thanks" whenever somebody (or me) is super excited about this awesome product that I just HAVE to try, and BT is my addiction but I try to limit myself to skincare/non-ATE thread only.

 

Mmmm....so that was kind of rambling ish too. o.O

SeraK

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You are not alone in the escapist world, m'dear! 

sephoramusthave

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Makeup is the only artistic ability that I have, and I love trying new looks and reading about new items and beauty blogs and watching youtube tutorials/reviews etc. Its what I do for ME. Not for the world, not to impress a boy, not to look like a model in a magazine, but for me. No one pushed me into makeup, no one forced me to wear it, its something that I grew to love on my own which is one of the reasons I love it so much. I also find that when I Iook my best, I *feel* my best, and when I feel my best I feel more confident and when I have my confidence I feel like I can do anything. :smileyvery-happy:

 

 

 

 

veevali

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I couldn't have worded it any better <3

krunce

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Ya I completely agree with you.

I can actually date my return to make up to fit within that kind of narrative also. I did my undergrad in Fine Arts and continue to study Art History, but within about a year of slowing down my artistic production, I started experimenting with make up. And I know I didn't do it for my boyfriend. When he met me for the first time (3 years before I started wearing make up again) he thought I was an anarchist... 

It does make me feel sexier and more confident, but I wonder if that's because I'm conforming to an ideal of beauty or if I'm happy with my 'creation'. Y'know?

mkupgk

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I put on makeup to cover my acne, redness, etc.  

makeupmaven

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And also re: male makeup v. female makeup, my absolute favorite model to work with (who is a sweetheart and true professional) was a man...we'd do high fashion looks or more natural definition, and it made me so happy that he always loved what I did.

makeupmaven

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I've worked for Sephora since 2003, and as I've gotten older I've started wearing less and less makeup (I never take an hour to get ready anymore!). I'm turning 31 in May...I care more about taking care of my skin. I used to do makeup (mainly portfolio building stuff, some paid, but I always thought it was more worth my time to get great photos/ work with an inspiring team)...while I still love makeup, my true interest is in ingredients (which relates more to skincare).

 

On a daily basis I just wear Peter Thomas Roth's new CC (just a bit, to cover redness on my cheeks, a little under the eyes), YSL Bronzer and a little blush (YSL most often). And mascara. My friend makes an amazing skincare oil that complements the CC perfectly...and if I get shiny I set w/ Clinique's redness powder.

 

This just makes me feel awake, somewhat polished, but still very natural...I really just want to show off my skin! Totally for me, but of course I want to look attractive to my husband and presentable to my colleagues/ the world. I wear glasses now which camouflage my dark circles for the most part (which of course have gotten worse with age). The more sleep I get, less alcohol/ stress/ allergies I experience, the better I feel about my dark circles. A client of mine (back in 2001 when I was working at an Origins counter) reminded me that those of us with dark circles also have natural eye shadow-- we can get away with not wearing it.

 

When I did makeup for other people/ any special occasion I was a serious perfectionist, layering multiple products to get the effects I wanted, but I always kept skin looking like skin. I hate the look of heavy photoshop and plastic skin.

 

I also used to pluck too much and pencilled in my eyebrows. Now I don't, and I love the more natural look. I do feel that with a heavier smokey eye you should define the brows a bit, but I can't stand obviously shaped brows.

 

The last time I went out it honestly felt weird to have on a little more makeup...liner and and a bit of shadow and red lipstick definitely made me feel pretty/ enhanced, but it still took some getting used to.

 

Haha rambling also.

SeraK

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What a great question to ask!

 

I don't wear make up every day; hardly at all, truth be told. I have no problem with admitting that for the most part I'm too lazy to wake up the x amount of time needed to prepare my face. I come from a long line of women who wear minimal, if any make up, on a regular bases as well. My mother always told me that if you took care of your skin, you won't really need to wear makeup. So, skin care is where most of my money goes.

 

One thing I also wanted to point out here - I'm black. A lot of the make up that's out there, I've found, when I do want to experiment, doesn't look good or match my skin tone at all, or that a lot of the looks that I see that are meant to look "naked" require a ton of steps and products to achieve it. My mom is an old school fan of Fashion Fair, and to see how cakey it is and how far off it is from the vividness of my mother's skin color was a little depressing. She's long since switched to hardly any coverage at all, but I run into the same thing if I'm looking for the lightest of coverage - everything mattes out my skin and dulls my color. 

 

There are things that I would like to try, but I get personally daunted at how drastic a change it would be in my daily schedule and how little it really matters. Whenever I do venture into a make up store for a consult, I'm usually often sort of "chased off" by the attitude that I shouldn't set foot in these stores without knowing everything about everything! Where do you even learn from? My husband, who is white, barely notices the few times I do manage to wear eyeliner. Since there isn't much of a difference for me, I wonder why bother. I think for me, the idea would be to create something noticeably different and appealing, but that seems counterintuitive to how I work, which is pretty low-key. I think, for me, the idea is that since I'm wearing makeup, the occasion needs to be huge and special and showstopping when it really isn't. 

 

Sometimes, when I look at myself in the mirror and I'm having a break out or I just look generally haggard from one too many late nights of studying, I think, "Man, I should probably do something about that," but I end up not doing it. I also can't get used to the fact that if I do choose to wear makeup, so long to actually being able to touch my face without getting brown powder or foundation everywhere. 

 

My experience is totally different from everyone who's posted, but I've honestly enjoyed reading what people have written. It's empowering to see why other women do it. It really seems that it's less for men and more about they feel, which is ultimately what matters! 

iamaprettylady

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I've seen black women -- usually employees at Sephora -- who add beautiful pops of bright color that highlight their beautiful dark skin. Definitely the same looks that work on light-skinned women will not work on dark-skinned women, but dark skin is such a wonderful base for so many different looks.

sephoramusthave

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I watched a makeup tutorial by pixiwoo not too long ago, and Nic put foundation on 3 different models. On the woman that had a dark skintone (45-50 in the mac foundation) Nic actually pointed out that most dark-deep skintones actually have 2 different skintones/shades to their complexion. The center of the face (middle of forehead, nose, cheeks, chin) is lighter than the outside of the face, so she actually used 2 different colored foundations on that particular skintone and it looked flawless. It covered and enhanced her natural tones without washing out her complexion by just using one color all over the face. I have fair to light skin that's the same skintone all over so I can wear just one foundation and add color to my face by using bronzer and blush. But I just thought that it was so interesting how foundation techniques differ from skintone to skintone. I would post the link but BT doesn't allow outside links.

makeupmaven

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I'm with you, no sense in using an unnatural makeup to cover up your beautiful skin!

SeraK

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There's that, but there's also the desire to want to experiment and learn and toy and grow, like adding a new tool to your awesome arsenal! :smileyhappy: 

makeupmaven

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True...it takes more effort (restraint) to create of a natural look than a dramatic/ heavy one.

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