THE PAT McGRATH THREAD

[veronika23]

~ Updated Sept 26th 2019 ~

Since the brand is coming to Sephora. I thought I'd start a thread just for the brand for news and info. 

Brand page: https://www.sephora.com/pat-mcgrath-labs

NEW PRODUCTS

Blitz Astral Quad Eyeshadow Palette

https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/blitz-astral-quad-P451138

Obsessive Opulence: MatteTrance Lipstick

https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/obsessive-opulence-mattetrance-lipstick-P451132

Mothership VI Eyeshadow Palette - Midnight Sun

https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/mothership-vi-eyeshadow-palette-midnight-sun-P449790

Eye Ecstasy: Eye Shadow Palette Mini

https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/eye-ecstasy-eye-shadow-palette-P448447

Skin Fetish: Sublime Perfection Foundation

https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/skin-fetish-sublime-perfection-foundation-P447519

Skin Fetish: Sublime Perfection Primer

https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/skin-fetish-sublime-perfecting-primer-P447764

Skin Fetish: Sublime Perfection Setting Powder

https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/skin-fetish-sublime-setting-powder-P447770

Skin Fetish: Sublime Perfection Foundation Brush

https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/skin-fetish-sublime-perfection-foundation-brush-P448622

Skin Fetish: Sublime Perfection Powder Brush

https://www.sephora.com/ca/en/product/skin-fetish-sublime-perfection-powder-brush-P448623

Mothership VI Eyeshadow Palette - Midnight Sun

Spoiler

[TraceyEB]

Deeply discounted PMG items at Macy's. $10 matte lipsticks, blush, and bronzer. A commentator under this post on IG noted that Sunlit Seduction was $35 at ipsy.

[danielledanielle]

Oooh, thanks @TraceyEB Rakuten is also giving 10% cash back today (11/15)

[KNC24]

These are also refillable. The purple is just gorgeous to me  

 

[WinglessOne]

@KNC24  The purple quad grabs my attention too, along with the blue and khaki quads. I also saw a lipstick preview and I’m glad there’s a purple shade. 💜 Do you plan to buy anything from this collection? 

Overall, I expected high prices—I mean, this is Louis Vuitton—but the quad pricing still surprised me. The lipstick pricing, not so much. From today’s Fashionista article (LOUIS VUITTON AND PAT MCGRATH SHARE FIRST LOOK AT NEW 'LA BEAUTE' MAKEUP LINE) :

“The debut collection features 55 shades of richly pigmented lipsticks comprising two distinct finishes: a creamy satin and a velvety matte. There are also sheer, hydrating lip balms enriched with shea butter and hyaluronic acid, coming in 10 shades. Both lip products will be priced at $160, or $69 for refills. Rounding out the lineup are eight eye-shadow palettes, each composed of four shades, set to retail for $250, or $92 for refills. Every product is encased in minimalist packaging featuring Louis Vuitton's signature monogram.”

Here’s what the lipstick refill’s base looks like:

Screenshot of image in Fashionista article showing a lipstick refill.
To me, it doesn’t look like the refill will work without a case. 😒 I was hoping to get just a satin refill for science, but I won’t pay an extra $91 for that experiment. (Last year I bought a Dior Rouge Premier lipstick refill for $65 and it works without the $530 case, thank goodness.) Plus, all the lipsticks and balms are fragranced. 😒😒

The quads, though… would I buy just a refill? Seems quite overpriced, though I’ve paid $80+ for Guerlain and Tom Ford quads. Those were full package quads though, not refill-only. (Eh, they weren’t refillable at all.) And of course an LV quad refill will work just fine without a pricey case. But also, a quad refill is just $36 cheaper than a 10-pan Mothership, so… nah, I’ll just wait to see swatches and comparisons to some of Pat’s own quads. Two of the LV quads look very familiar. 😅

[ChristalM]

@WinglessOne  Sadly I can report they do not work without the case. I purchased a lipstick and a refill.

[itsfi]

@ChristalM, congrats on getting them. Which shades did you pick up?

[ChristalM]

@itsfi Thanks 🙂 I got satin in 402 - Very V and Matte in 508 - Futurism

[itsfi]

Ooouh, the Very V shade looks stunning, @ChristalM! 😍

[danielledanielle]

I've reread this twice and I'm still like @WinglessOne 

[WinglessOne]

@danielledanielle  🤣 My brain’s still stuck on the Hermes comparison. You know you’ve overpriced your makeup when the comparable Hermes makeup is significantly cheaper. 

To be fair, I don’t know the LV quad pan sizes in terms of volume/weight. But in promo photos of a quad beside a lipstick, it looks the same size as an Hermes quad. An Hermes quad is a total 0.11 ounces, according to the brand. I’m guessing the LV pans aren’t much bigger than Hermes pans, but I won’t know without seeing official measurements. I seriously doubt these pans are the same size as a Mothership pan. Soooo if LV and Hermes quads contain the same volume/weight of product, then LV’s pricing is crazy—even by luxury standards. Even if I just compare both brands’ quad refills, the price difference is astonishing. And all of this makes the Hermes quads look a lot more reasonably attainable, especially with Nordy Notes. 😂🤣

tl;dr: dang LV, you’re out here making me buy Hermes now. 

[KNC24]

@Sunnysmom  The refills are $60 for the lipsticks. It’s going to be pricey. 

[Sunnysmom]

I see that, thanks @KNC24 ! Well I’ve done similar damage with Chanel and Dior so will just have to see if the quality is worth it but they look so good! 😆

[KNC24]

@WinglessOne I plan on buying the purple and blue eyeshadow quads, and brushes. I didn’t see a purple lipstick. Probably that one too. 

[Sunnysmom]

This shadow seems like madness @WinglessOne ! Not that the lip isn’t also. I wonder if they will work as a refill too. We lucked out with the Diors! 😊 I don’t know if this is doable truly. 

[WinglessOne]

@Sunnysmom  I’ve been thinking about other pricey quads I’ve bought… Prada’s refills are $70 (I think the 3 newer “nude” ones are $60-65?) and their tray’s not a metal that’ll stick to a magnetic palette, so you kinda have to buy a case too—but that’s just $15 more. Some people still complain about the Prada makeup cases/components not feeling very lux. Maybe those are the people who’ll happily drop $250 on an LV quad. All I know is, Prada’s eyeshadows themselves are quite nice. I expect the LV shadows to also be good performers, though I’m curious to see how the formulas differ (or don’t) from Pat’s own shadows. 

I’m so glad Dior didn’t force customers to buy that Rouge Premier case! 😂 We definitely lucked out there. If LV does force a case purchase, then the only way I’ll get one of those lipsticks is if they come to Nordstrom (so I can use Nordy Notes) or someone generously gifts me one. 

[Sunnysmom]

I know @WinglessOne . I saw that someone made funny comment saying “never thought Hermes would be the bargain”  or something like that! It looks beautiful for sure. I wonder about the quality too. Even Celine isn’t that nutty. Yet. I think I could probably resist the shadows unless out of this world (is anything ?!) but the lip clearly gets to me plus the collector ish aspect of it which I usually don’t do , always wanting to use stuff! I still can’t believe Dior didn’t require the case either! That is quite a jump for a shadow palette, sheesh. I do not have a Prada shadow! Somehow the shades never called out to me like the Hermes did though the quality feels good on the Prada. Do you love them? 

[WinglessOne]

@Sunnysmom  I have 3 Prada quads and they perform very well on my lids. When they first launched, I had lowish expectations because of my experience with a few other fashion houses’ shadows (Gucci, for instance). So I was shocked by how smooth and silky most of the Prada shadows felt. I loved my first one (don’t recall the quad names… the one with the green shadow) + case enough to get 2 more as refills, though I did use Nordy Notes on ‘em.

Haha, I forgot about Hermes. Not only are their quads cheaper, they also come with a brush (a “real” brush with wood handle!) and the fancy Hermes orange box, oh la la! 🤣 The refills are also cheaper! I’ve never use Hermes shadows and don’t know the creative behind them, so I dunno if they’re Pat McGrath level good. Regardless, Hermes being the bargain option is hilarious! 

[Sunnysmom]

I should try a Prada sometime @WinglessOne . The shade combos never really called out to me thankfully! I really like Hermes however and yes the great brush and pouch and fab orange box! Lol. You would maybe prefer the quality of the Prada shadow compared to Hermes tho or maybe not. I’ve heard others say this tho I really do like the ones I have, both the neutrals and the brighter combos. You’d better try some for science of course don’t you think?! 🤓 Yay for all the Nordies notes, they really do help! 

[Ispend2much6]

@KNC24  I agree!  Is there a release date?

[KNC24]

I believe 8/20.