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JUBILANT JUNE FAVORITES
....i used 'jubilant'. i waited all month for this (for those who know what i'm talking about). I MEANT TO USE "JAUNTY". I SHOULD NOT MAKE POSTS AFTER HAVING A SAKE COCKTAIL. fail.   ok....what have been my favorite things this month ???   PIXI glow tonic . i only got this toward the end of the month, but i love it. i use it in the morning before i put on any serum/oil and moisturizer (typically after i use the CLINIQUE *mild* clarifying lotion, if i happen to use it in the morning, sometimes i don't). it smells really nice yet not overbearing at all. can be sprayed over makeup to refresh your foundation if it's looking a bit patchy / dehydrated. totally works ! ....which leads me to CLINIQUE mild clarifying lotion . this is the only one in the range that does not contain alcohol. i wish it were called something different, actually, because the clarifying lotions have SUCH a reputation. but with consis use over the past month, i've found that some stubborn congestion on my chin has gone away completely, due to the salicylic acid. while things like the FAB pads give good 'glow' and help with gentle exfoliation (with the glycolic and lactic acid), the salicylic is good for stubborn unclogging. NYX lip liner in pale pink . it is quite pale, almost greyish pink. but because it leans grey rather than blue, it doesn't look garish or too "barbie" (which is great for a lot of women but not on me). just a unique color which is a good base for nudey pink lips (particularly with the slightly warmer MAC honey love, my go-to and always-favorite.) SEPHORA COLLECTION eyeliner in 'strawberry macaroon' . perfect waterline color. can look very natural, but also great for smokey eye looks because it gives a bit of that heroin chic sheen when contrasted with darker liner/shadows. can't beat the price. i put this in my favorites a couple months ago, i think, but i've only been using it regularly this month. i'd be remiss in not mentioning it again.   SHISEIDO wetforce spf 50 . because it works. and i really needed something that works WELL while in hawaii. i'm proof because i easily could've turned full-lobster if using anything less effective.  BUMBLE AND BUMBLE hairdresser's invisible oil shampoo, conditioner and hair "primer" . this is the only shampoo and conditioner i've used all month (which isn't saying much as i only wash my hair once a week, really, but still)-- with the slight exception of putting AVEDA dry remedy hair masque on the ends (which i will consider a monthly favorite, too). my hair is more manageable than it's been the entirety of my growing-out process. i've loved any b&b shampoo and conditioner i've tried, really. highly recommend. edited to add: sake cocktails . because they taste like whatever heaven you mix the sake with (in this case: watermelon juice and lavender) and leave you feeling STUPID and happy.    alright ! how about you guys ?
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HALL OF FAMER Zpsid91 / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
I really like the Cargo waterproof blush - that stuff is awesome! I was pleasantly surprised :) see post
Christmas in July!
I was browsing through some holiday holdovers for fun.   Will you be picking anything up or do you already own something below?   Do you see other items from Christmas-past that are still waiting to be loved??  
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BEAUTY BOSS Samtian / BEAUTY BOSS BEAUTY BOSS / replied
I have a few of them on my loves list to try. But probably won't be getting any time soon. KVDs new liquid lipsticks is all I can think about. see post
Lost forever?
I realized when I was packing for my trip to Florida at the beginning of the month that one of my lipsticks is missing. I really don't have that many, so it's not like I have a lot to keep track of. But it's Fanny from the Audacious like and she's my favorite pink. I don't have a dupe for that shade and I've wanted to wear it a few times this month and I can't find it ANYWHERE!    Do you guys ever lose makeup? Or is it just me and my scatterbrained self. 
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HALL OF FAMER etscore1 / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
This reminds me of a swimsuit I wanted in high school. I vowed to wait until it went on sale, at which point it sold out immediately. I have never forgotten you Op Batik... see post
Favorite Freebie or GWP of All Time?
Everyone loves a good GWP or even better yet a good freebie. What are one or some of your all time favorite GWP's or better yet freebies from Sephora or Department Stores and what you did you do to get it?   I've been very fortunate to meet some very good SA's in my favorite department store.  Here are a few of my all time memorable experiences:   1)While making a purchase at a BB counter, I qualified for the GWP($125) - standard 3 piece BB giveaway mini  lip palette, eye cream and a mascara.  Additionally, For FREE, in my bag I also received the GWP from Laura Mercier, Shiseido, & Keilh's. Very Nice Bonus - this is the equivalent to getting 3 500pt perks for free!!!   2)Items Received for Free for visiting counters while attending a store Beauty Trend Show - received a full sized New Release Butter of London Lip Stick,  2 sets of Erno Laslo Cleansing Oil/Soap/toner (3 piece deluxe sample set), while entering the store you got a Free continental breakfast and recycled tote with handful of foils/perfume samples and YSL Mascara (deluxe size). I did not make a purchase at this event, but have given them $$$ through the years.   3) Received a Full Sized Shiseido Moisturizer $$$.  This is in conjunction to my $50 shiseido purchase and the standard gwp. I believe Kiehl's does this too, in limited quantities a full size bonus step up item complimentary to the first few customers-these usually are gone early on during the event/promotion.   4) Best Sephora gwp/freebie - happened while shopping in store, I was browsing and purchased a skincare item and the rep from that line was there.  I received generous deluxe samples to try without asking, she just happen to have them available. The best surprises happen when you don't expect them.   What are some of your favorite GWP's or Freebie experiences?    
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BEAUTY BOSS fabme / BEAUTY BOSS BEAUTY BOSS / replied
I just made rouge, so I hope they come out with more good perks.  As I mentioned below, my experience is that the department stores have better perks, giveaways, but I d... see post
Boxes boxes everywhere!!!
So I seem to be getting alot of requests for another AATW box trade. If there are enough people who are interested, this has been the most fun trade I have been a part of! Anyone interested in joining round 2?
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BEAUTY GURU Sprytely / BEAUTY GURU BEAUTY GURU / replied
I've PMed Traci to see if round two is imminent or what the story is, hopefully we hear something soon!  see post
Ho Ho Holidays 2015!
Ok, forgive me, I know it is only June!  Is anyone else already thinking of wonderful things to come? I have visions of Limited editions, special sets and palettes dancing in my head! I can't wait to see what gift sets, gifts with purchase, and Sephora Favorites are coming our way! Black Friday deals and specials that we can't wait to get our hands on!!   Lets share some of our favorites from the past and wishes for the future, and them post pics as we get closer and start finding out what we have to get for the holidays!
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HALL OF FAMER enableme / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
A MJ and Nars Audacious mini lip set would be heaven!!! <3 see post
Parks and Rec Officially Dubbed Today "Treat Yo Self 2015"
For the many fans of Parks and Rec here in BT, that magical day is upon us....   If you needed one more reason to splurge or make that purchase.....channel your inner Tom and Donna and TREAT YO SELF!
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HALL OF FAMER lylysa / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
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Sephora France
My dad just got back from a business trip in France and obviously my mother and I made a list of France-exclusive products that we wanted to get.   The only downside is that when my dad gave the SA our list (which was individual product page print outs from the Sephora FR website) she mistakenly gave him a Chanel Allure Deodorant instead of the Chanel Coco Mademoiselle deodorant. Which we obviously can no longer return. And of course my dad didn't think to double check the list because how hard can it be to read and look at the picture and give him the correct product?   But he did get everything else on the list and I'm really happy with my Chanel Coco Mademoiselle France-exclusive products like the Hair Mist and the Body Mist. The body mist smells soooo nice!! And my mom is super happy with her YSL Rive Gauche and her Chanel stuff.   And the amount of samples he came home with was insane!! He got 4 deluxe samples and they were huge!! And he also got 10+ perfume samples. All of this he got at checkout without even having to ask (and he didn't even know you could ask for samples). They even threw in a Guerlain laptop/ipad protective cover/bag (at least I think that's what it is). I was really really impressed that they gave him all those samples. When I spend the same amount of money here I have to practically beg them for a sample with my purchase (and I only get one) and in France they're giving them out like candy.   Next time he goes back to France for business I will get my Chanel Coco Mademoiselle Deodorant.
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whats in your bathroom/shower area
armani code rub on deodorant as well as spray, armani code after shave, armani sport cologne. axe stick for running jogging and biking,  scrub gloves for the shower.  toothbrush and paste, listerine, 2 combs paul mitchell mousse. free giveaways through sephora for the ladies.  And i have flash so i get my stuff here asap rather than looking like a creeper at the store. please do tell pics are welcome
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HALL OF FAMER Sonny4President / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
I love this! Super cute idea. In my shower area I have for the body: Chanel Bleu Body Wash, Molton Brown London Ylang-Ylang Body Wash & Orange Bergamont Body Wash.   F... see post
Brand Addiction: Nothing But Love Post!
Hi, my name is LCResz, and when I fall in love with a brand I explore it from top to bottom! I know everyone on here is a bonafide beauty addict, so let's celebrate our obsessions! Remember, the first step is admitting it is not a problem, it's a collection   Here are all of my Jo Malone perfumes and oils, not including minis because my love of minis is well documented in older threads   Post your addictions, er, um, collections of single brands here!
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HALL OF FAMER Chickibum / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
I'm drooling over your Chikuhodo collection see post
RANDOM THOUGHTS : BEAUTY
Ok so I've been wanting to make this thread for a while. I've also been wanting to start a "random thoughts" thread...but I figured I'd separate the categories so that at least the "beauty" one is on the front page, rather than hidden in off topic. So, have a beauty-related thought but don't think it's worth starting a thread about ? Post it here !   today I got a facial at an extraordinarily nice spa. A real treat. And the results were immediate and truly great. But guys: she pulled out a clarisonic and a foamy cleanser for that first initial cleanse, and I nearly had a heart attack. Great for a lot of people but most of you know how I feel about those things !!!!!! Overall, as I said, it was great and my skin is happy. But sheesh.
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HALL OF FAMER heartsmyface / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
I went out and 'enjoyed the sunshine' on the dock and even did a bit of swimming for the first time this year yesterday.  By enjoy I mean I slathered on sunscreen and su... see post
Beauty Keepsakes & Mementos
Hi ladies! I wanted to start a thread to post about beauty items we may own that have sentimental value. Anything from perfume that reminds us of someone to a specific shade of lipstick, I want to hear the story behind it. For me, it's a Revlon cosmetic organizer that sits on my vanity. It belonged to my mom, who passed away when I was really young. It's nice to see it everyday and have it filled with pretty things just like she did.   
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HALL OF FAMER pixiedust2 / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
Haha I'm not the only one! I love that your mom is still rocking strong lips :) see post
All around the world
So I have been talking to so many fellow BT ladies lately. And all have been amazing. In my conversations the topic of where everyone is from came up, and swapping care packages with your regional goodies. Is this something anyone else would be interested in doing? Kinda like the awesome maple Canada candies lol and me being from Louisiana, well, we have our own breed of everything down here!
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HALL OF FAMER MoreGun89 / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
It's the ciiiircle of booox, and the USPS moves them aaaaall!   sorry couldn't resist!  And Sprytely, I had a feeling the pic had to be significant, it makes much more... see post
Cannot get eye brows waxed
Does anyone else have this problem? No matter who waxes my eye brows, my skin scabs. And I mean pretty much every time. And it's not because the wax is too hot. It's not. I've even had people try to prep my skin beforehand. Nope. Still scabs. So I have to get threaded or plucked. I thread because I really love the way it looks (painful though!).   Am I the weirdo here? 'Cause I feel like I'm the weirdo.
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BEAUTY GURU NarNarNars / BEAUTY GURU BEAUTY GURU / replied
I've never had any problem waxing my brows... so while I am not entirely sure why you are having such a hard time with waxing, there could be a few different things that... see post
Joyful June Hauls 2015
Can't wait to see what everyone is having fun with this month!!!  It's also the month of my birthday so I"m looking forward to celebrating with other Geminis as well! Here's to a joyful June jubilee..Cheers!
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HALL OF FAMER Tamara76 / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
Mine, too!  I will probably end up using it for earrings or something small :) see post
JUNE Empties :)
I love watching Empties videos on YT. Now that May is over, are there any products you are close or already finished with it? Post a mini review and let us know if you'll repurchase or not!     so here's my first   Bliss Fabulous Foaming Face Wash - so this extra large bottle has been sitting in my shower for at least 4 months?? I am finally close to being done! I like it because it's a very gentle exfoliant and the scent is nice - but for me it doesn't give me the cleanest wash (meaning I have to wash my face twice in the shower to feel squeaky clean?) Will I repurchase? Probably not. I am moving on to the Glamglow Supercleanse Daily Cleanser - tried a sample of this and love the tingly feeling after it washes off!   
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HALL OF FAMER shyvicki / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
I use it as basically a foot perfume. Without it, you don't want to be near my feet. I really need an antiperspirant for my feet. see post
Now that summer is fast approaching, what do you change about your skincare/makeup routine?
Hello lovelies,   I'm curious about this. I do change my skincare and makeup routines.   I do way less face oils in the summer since my skin gets super oily when it's hot. So maybe Josie Maran Aragan Oil a few times a week in the evening instead of every night the rest of the year.   I also depend way more on on BB cream (I love Maybelline Dream Finish BB Cream) and my NARS Concealer Stick for daily coverage. I also don't opt so much for a full face of makeup during the work week. I definitely still do mascara, liner, blush, but I do more lip glosses than lipsticks. But I still love my bright lip colors. If I do eye shadow, it's maybe one neutral color.   Of course, if I'm going out in the evening, it's full everything!   What about you?
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HALL OF FAMER infinitise / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
my skin itself doesn't change much with the weather but since I walk around a lot as a student, my face does break in sweat.    So I make sure I powder my entire face ... see post
HEY MAY FAVE-O-RITES ! YAY !!
is it too early for this ? nahhh.   this month i have two lipsticks that have caught my heart: NARS audacious lipstick, dominique. my "new nude" if you will. BESAME lipstick, noir red. the color of dried blood. dream come true. i've also fallen in love with a couple of eye products:  BOBBI BROWN cream eyeshadow sticks. these are my favorite eyeshadow sticks i've tried. absolute convert.  BOBBI BROWN long wear eyeliner. this stuff is good.  i got both of those product in the bobbi brown promo and i'm so happy i went for it because, as i said, i'm a convert !!   i went into a weird shop last week and found a brand of incense i haven't seen in literally a decade. so i have managed to make my place smell as it did a decade ago, which is both lovely and an interesting trip down nostalgia lane.    OH and another lip product: SMITH'S (rosebud perfume co.) rose & mandarin lip balm (i got the one in the tube, not the tin). now, usually i'm against petroleum products on my face but i do make an exception for on my lips for when i'm sleeping. just locks in the moisture which is what i need. this "flavor" is just so dang good. mandarin and rose is not necessarily a combo you'd think of being particularly enticing, but they're two of my favorite scents ! so i had to give it a go. and i'm so glad i did. def check it out !! edited to add: BUMBLE & BUMBLE hairdresser's invisible oil--the whole range of products. i really really love the shampoo and conditioner. received this as the 500 pt perk and fully intend to get full size. leaves my hair clean and light, but not over stripped (highly recommend this line for color treated hair, as well as hair that tends to frizz !!) what else ? i'll add more as i think of it. how about you guys ? anything particular pull at your heartstrings this month ?  
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HALL OF FAMER ballerinagrl / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
Gorgeous brushes! :) see post
Self-Tanning -- do you do it year round?
Hi! I recently tried my first self tanner and I FELL HEAD OVER HEELS with my results. I tried the Vita Liberata that was 100pt perk. My husband really liked it too. He said it was a nice touch of color on my skin and he liked the way it looked. Now let me just say that my husband rarely ever notices let alone compliments anything i do that relates to makeup--etc. But when he complimented my tan, it just made even more obsessed. I am wondering if there are a lot of you that maintain self tanning? I want to but i keep thinking about the gamillion foundations and powders that matched my naturally light skin and the thought of having to buy darker foundations and sounds like a huge fiasco i don't want to undertake. Anybody here year long self tanners? How do you prolong a tan and keep it from fading quickly. Which products do you use? 
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BEAUTY BOSS beyourbeauty / BEAUTY BOSS BEAUTY BOSS / replied
thank you randee!    i actually have the st tropez gradual tan in my basket...for the same reason of maintaining my tan. any tips or special things you want to mention... see post
Anyone else tired of the same posts over and over again?
I have replied to so many threads about sensitive acne prone skin and the like. I just wish people would search these boards before starting a new thread for a concern that already exists multiple times. I love being a part of the community and helping where I can but search is your friend everyone! *steps off soapbox*
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HALL OF FAMER BlushHoarder / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
this thread is a repeat too. :) see post
Does anyone know when MUFE Pro Finish 110 will be back in stock?
Just called around to all the SiJCP and Sephora stores to try to find the MUFE Pro Finish powder for my sister.  Everyone is out of stock, including online, of 110 Pink Porcelain.  Is there a particular reason why?  I know not all of us are that fair skinned.
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I burnt my neck with a curling wand and it's gonna leave a big scar
For the past seven or so years I've curled my hair using a straight iron. I had my hair cut about about two months ago and figured I should try and baby those freshly cut NON SPLIT ends along for as long as possible. I bought a schmancy curling wand for when I wanted to do wavy hair because I realized I wouldn't have to drag the ends of my hair through searing heat! Yay! I'm so smart! Look at me! Look at -- oooowwww Oh My God what have I done?    So somehow while curling I laid the top of the iron against my neck and got an awful burn. That was about 1.5 weeks ago. It's still scabbing over and healing and I still have to wear scarves, hoodies pulled tight around my neck and bandages in public.    The outer parts of the wound are already scarring. I've had a lot of surgery and, TBH, normally I don't care about scarring. But this looks like a giant hickey in the exact place you'd expect to find a giant hickey.    So TL;DR best recommendations on how to get a scar to fade/heal? How to speed up the healing of the burn wound? (I have a prescription antibiotic similar to Neosporin I've been using - should I do anything else?) And in the worst case scenario, best makeup to hide a new, dark pink/red scar. sorry for the novel!
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HALL OF FAMER KateLovesYSL / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
 I'm sorry you burned your neck. Thanks for starting this thread, there's soo much good advice here.  I burned my neck slightly this week with a curling wand and so tod... see post
Challenge: Let's see your comicbook/superhero inspired looks!
There has to be some fellow superhero/comicbook nerds here on BT.  Let's see your superhero and comicbook inspired makeup looks!  I've seen some great inspiration from YT's madeyewlooktwice, and I've gotta admit, it's pretty badass.  Let's see what our fellow BT nerds can come up with! Post your comic book/superhero inspired looks here!
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HALL OF FAMER ballerinagrl / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
You look utterly stunning and adorable! The eye and lip colors are fabulously fierce and perfect for Sailor Moon! :) see post
I got the Beauty Blues :'(
Just coming here to vent my anger/sadness to people who  might  understand. I could barely sleep last night for being so upset. So I basically placed a small order with Ulta so I could yank that cute gwp they had last week. I noticed that Ulta ships via UPS-SurePost which means UPS will deliver your package to your local post office, and the post office will make the final delivery. Now I usually have packages delivered to my office but I decided to have this one delivered to my home believing that the postal guy would just leave that little pink ticket in my box telling me I could pick it up at the post office (this is always the case). Unfortunately when I went to check the tracking online I got the notice that the US postal service left my package doorside at 2:14 in the afternoon...AAAHHHHH!!!!! Spoiler (Highlight to read)   Are you kidding me??!! I live in a New York City apartment building which basically means I could have a mafia boss, a wealthy scam artist and a crackhead all living on the same floor!! And the US postal delivery guy decides to leave my package somewhere outside my door??!!! It was too late to call the post office (not like they'd answer the phone anyway) so I called Ulta even though none of this is their fault. I was already in tears by the time I spoke to the rep but she was as calm and collected as possible while I was practically hyperventilating. She apologized for my loss and offered to issue me a e-gift certificate in the amount that I'd spent. I asked if that mint green purse w/ goodies was still available as a gwp and it wasn't..bummer. But she did advise me that I could hold off on re-ordering until Wednesdays when they have their beauty break and another gwp will be available. I wish I could remember her name so I could go on Ulta and praise her for being such a calm, collected professional while on the phone with a crazed maniac (me).    Still (*sigh*) the feeling of having your things taken when you've spent your hard-earned money to buy them and you're sitting and waiting patiently for your stuff...just unbearable!! I went into a frenzy, cursed every living soul in my building, threw my phone up against the wall (thx HTC for making indestructable phones) and yelled so loudly my husband and 2 cats went into hiding. I couldn't sleep for being so angry so now I'm at work with red puffy eyes looking like a zombie! I know in the grand scheme of things, it was a small purchase, I'm kinda getting the money back and geez nobody died! I just hate that my stuff was stolen and needed to vent.    Thanks for being listening BT *hugs* 
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HALL OF FAMER njattana / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear this! I know if you pay a retailer with Paypal you can get an actual refund in cases such as this (though I'm not super familiar with how it ... see post
Are there other disabled makeup lovers here besides me?
I have Cerebral Palsy and  the way I apply makeup is different than an able-bodied person due to my limited use of only one limb. I can also use only certain packaging that I can open and close myself. I am just wondering if perhaps there are other disabled people here so we could exchange helpful hints and such.
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undeadgorgeous / FRESH FACE / replied
I run a makeup blog as someone with cerebral palsy and I'm always looking to connect with other ladies :) the address is disabledglam.com, send me a message there, I'd l... see post
Sun Safety Kit
Its active!!!!!!!!   Run!!!!!!!!
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Complexion Rescue fail
I loved the samples I got at the end of March of the Bare Minerals Complexion Rescue and how it made me look like I had a full night's rest when I don't (toddler fun), so I bought the full size when it was available at Sephora at the beginning of April.    I've used it maybe a handful of times (you really don't need much at ALL) and went to use it and work it's magic this morning only to find that the product SEPARATED.  All that came out was watery and not cool.  The consistency is usually that of Nars Pure Radiant Tinted Moisturizer.    I'll be taking it back to Sephora tomorrow and exchanging it, but if this happens again, I'll be returning it completely for a refund.  Not cool, especially since I loved using it before this was discovered this morning!
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HALL OF FAMER mw23 / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
I purchased Complexion Rescue a while ago - I think it was March.  I haven't had any problems with separation (and I've never needed to shake mine), so it sounds like an... see post
Got my Bare Minerals $45 box
Here's a pic. Not everything will work for me given my coloring, but overall I think it was worth it. 
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what is your favorite base for the coverfx custom cover drops?
I was really curious to try out the custom coverdrops because I thought in some way it might make my routine simpler. I have only tried it with a couple different primers, and  moisturizer but I haven't yet discovered a pairing that I really like. Since the possibilities seem endless, I thought I could ask you fellow BTers what type of products you have tried it with and whether you've found a winning combination. It might be helpful to list your skin type.    Thanks!
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BEAUTY BOSS jsharr08 / BEAUTY BOSS BEAUTY BOSS / replied
I moisturize my face really good and then add the drops to an SPF moisturizer.   My worry with mixing the drops with plain moisturizer is "what happens at the end of t... see post
H&M is stepping up their beauty game
Full article on Yahoo.  I like the packaging!   “We are very excited to offer ‘fashion for the face’ at H&M. It’s an opportunity to be inventive and creative, and to have fun with colors,” says Sara Wallander, concept designer at H&M Beauty, in a release. From lipstick to nail polish, hair tools to body lotion, styling products to face makeup, there will be over 700 products available both online and in stores starting this fall ranging in price from $2.99 to $24.99. On top of the core collection (which essentially replaces what they’ve offered up until now), they’ll offer a premium collection and, because this is H&M, “a Conscious assortment of Ecocert-approved sustainable products.” What does that mean? Ingredients are plant-based and naturally-derived, the formulas are paraben-, silicone-, GMO-, synthetic fragrance-, and dye-free, and everything is packaged inside recycled materials.    
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HALL OF FAMER kbmatthews / HALL OF FAMER HALL OF FAMER / replied
Yep, I saw it! I enjoy some of his segments.    I try to not buy clothes or other products from companies that have really shoddy work ethics. I remember the first com... see post