RANDOM THOUGHTS : BEAUTY

[jemly]

this thread has worked hard and deserves a proper rest. please now post in RANDOM THOUGHTS : BEAUTY PART DEUX 

http://community.sephora.com/t5/Beauty-Confessions/RANDOM-THOUGHTS-BEAUTY-PART-DEUX/td-p/2461692

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Ok so I've been wanting to make this thread for a while. I've also been wanting to start a "random thoughts" thread...but I figured I'd separate the categories so that at least the "beauty" one is on the front page, rather than hidden in off topic. So, have a beauty-related thought but don't think it's worth starting a thread about ? Post it here !

today I got a facial at an extraordinarily nice spa. A real treat. And the results were immediate and truly great. But guys: she pulled out a clarisonic and a foamy cleanser for that first initial cleanse, and I nearly had a heart attack. Great for a lot of people but most of you know how I feel about those things !!!!!! Overall, as I said, it was great and my skin is happy. But sheesh.

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[CuriousCannibal]

A few minutes ago I was watching my mom put tinted moisturizer underneath her eyes, JUST underneath her eyes, and I started telling her about concealer and whatnot.

But she cut me off to tell me she'd found a vision board she made when she was in her 20's. It had the usual stuff on it. Nice house, big closet, family, pretty car.......and a big brownie.

I'm still laughing, because she can't explain why she put a brownie on a vision board.

[heartsmyface]

Is anyone here a chemist?   I was under the impression from all my research that vitamin c rendered retinol useless which is why you're advised to apply any retinol 30 minutes before using products with vitamin c.  So the retinol has a chance to soak into the skin and be effective.  

This is new Lancer product claims to have both retinol and vitamin c.  :/.  I'm not do sure about this.
 

 http://www.sephora.com/advanced-c-radiance-cream-vitamin-c-collagen-cofactor-10x-P399751?skuId=17478...

[guzelkiz]

I am but this is not really in my field.  I have a PhD in pharmaceutical chem but I didn't study dermatological medicines unfortunately.

[heartsmyface]

Oh boo.   We were so close to having all the answers!   

[guzelkiz]

Sorry hearts.  I studied mostly chemotherapy (well that's what my thesis was on).  But I think I can find this out from a colleague.

[sfm1328]

Thanks to this reminder, I now need a new serum 2-3 nights/week.  Although my retinol is OTC so doubt its even doing anything anyways.  

[JenniferOhJenny]

I have a chemistry minor but I'm not a chemist...so I googled ;).

There is an article on Paula's Choice about busting retinol myths and one of the myths is that vitamin C and retinol shouldn't be used together. They say that vitamin C actually helps retinol work better by fighting free radicals, which helps protect the retinol from oxidizing.

But then I found some Q&As from dermatologists saying to use them separately.

So...I don't know, either. 

[heartsmyface]

Two questions-

1. How long does it take for retinol to oxidize? (Cause I only need that 30 minute window to absorb what I'm going to absorb)

2. Wouldnt mixing retinol with other products dilute it causing you to absorb less?  

[heartsmyface]

Yeah, my derm told me not to mix them.  That the vitamin c would still be effective but I would be essentially wasting my prescription.  

[JenniferOhJenny]

Do you use Retin A or retinol? There are a whole lot of conflicting opinions but one dermatologist said that you can't combine Retin A with any other products but retinol is not metabolized as quickly and you can combine it with things like vitamin C and glycolic acid.

There are also several vitamin C/retinol products that come in separate containers and you mix them in your hand or in a bottle and then use them immediately. I don't know if that is scientifically necessary or just a gimmick.

(Not really finding much on how long it takes to oxidize. What I'm reading mostly says that it can oxidize if formulated, stored, or packaged improperly - basically needs to be kept away from light/air, I think.)

[heartsmyface]

Retin-A but there us retinol in my night products as well.  I have to stagger my skincare. 

[BaseballMommy]

I use RetinA at night and am careful to only apply vitamin C products in the morning. I've seen mixed information as well. Hopefully someone can chime in and enlighten us!:)

[heartsmyface]

I was told it was fine to, by all means, continue with my regular night routine after it had had 30 minutes to absorb at full strength.  I want to hear more opinions.   

[guzelkiz]

Tip: Do not eat a protein bar without checking the expiration date because you're too lazy to go to the kitchen for some real food.  (It expired in April.  No wonder it tasted awful.)

[notcreative]

I doubt the expiration date has anything to do with it tasting awful. On that note, if anyone knows of a great tasting protein bar, please tell me. I do love the chocolate coated greens plus bars, but they are not high in protein.

[heartsmyface]

Hmmmm, sounds like french toast day to me when the milk goes off.  But you also need stale bread.   Now I want french toast...

[BaseballMommy]

I'm not a french toast fan, but it's my hubby's breakfast of choice for a lucky day. 

[guzelkiz]

Is that like a day he gets lucky... 😛

[BaseballMommy]

Nah, guz, he doesn't need french toast for that;)

[guzelkiz]

Haha  😉

[guzelkiz]

Now I want french toast too!  If you make it I will come over and share it 😉