Thoughts on Paula's Choice?

Do you agree with her views on skincare products? 

I'm on a hunt for my Summer night serum & moisturizer. I think I'm going to purchase the Perricone Blue Plasma even though it stinks so bad of fish & I hate fish. I've been researching products a lot and one of the sites I was on was Paula's Choice. She is not a fan of the serum... Actually the more I read through her "beautypedia" reviews, it seems like she's not a fan of a lot of products. I also got a feeling she was mainly trying to push her own products and Olay. 

Examples: 

- She's against treatment cleansers since it's just "washed down the drain". I have to disagree with this. When I use a treatment cleanser, although they can be drying, I do see improvement in my breakouts. 

- Witch Hazel is bad. I find witch hazel to be an important ingredient when choosing a toner. She think it's just as bad as alcohol if not worse. 

 

Products she gave a "poor" rating to: 

- Anthony Logistic's Glycolic cleanser got a poor rating because it doesn't contain any glycolic acid. 

- doctor dennis gross's A/B pads since we can just skip step 2 by simply splashing water on our face to deactivate step 1. 

- Dior Capture Totale One Essential Serum because it's not a "miracle serum" since it's primarily just "water, slip agents, and alcohol"

- ExfoliKate

- Just about every Ole Henriksen product I love Smiley Sad 

- Origins Checks & Balances, Charcoal Mask & every other decent product from them

- Most Murad products

 

I do agree with a few points she makes, like companies need to stop putting active ingredients in clear vials so the sun doesn't break down the properties of the treatment. Also jar packaging is a big no-no for her. I understand that some creams are too thick to be put in a pump, but what about those airless jars that Bosica & Dermadoctor are using? I hate sticking my fingers in jars & the air does break down the active ingredients over time... 

Overall though, I don't think I'll be going to her site when I'm researching a new product I want to try. 

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Your post is making me shake my head. Paula's Choice products were developed after years of extensive research from peer-reviewed professional journals. In her books she provides thorough documentation and lists ingredients found to be most beneficial to specific skin concerns.

 

Now if you had all of that knowledge and were genuinely concerned with showcasing simple, yet effective skin care wouldn't you share that information? That is what Beautypedia is for. If people are willing to spend money based on marketing campaigns the beauty industry giants come up with, so be it. Beautypedia is not for them nor is it for those who refuse to believe these beauty giants care more for profit than producing truly effective products.

 

Believe it or not, basic skincare is based on gentleness. Gentle cleansers, toners (without alcohol), mild exfoliation, treatment/moisturizer and sun protection. 

 

You mention above you didn't like her low rating of Anthony Logistics Glycolic cleanser because it was dinged for not containing Glycolic acid. Well, I'm thinking that misleading consumers is not a good idea, I would have automatically assumed something labelled a Glycolic cleanser would indeed contain Glycolic acid!

 

She might give Olay products a high rating ( she is also a fan of some Clinique products) but is that a bad thing? 

 

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I used her site years before she started selling her own products to get info on what would work. She recommended a $5.00 drugstore brand of lotion that would actually do something for blackheads and pores because the PH level in it was on point, and according to Paula, that the reason many products wont work or do what they are supposed to is because of this.

 

Anyway, I used what she recommended, and she was right. For the first time, I found something that kept my pores clear, my skin from breaking out and overall, resulted in my having clear, good skin. And for $5.00, not $50 a bottle. Sadly the brand stopped making that particular product a couple of years later, so I went back to her site to see what else she could recommend. By this time, she had started selling a few products, but I still felt she rated most other brands pretty fairly, based on ingredients and packaging. She actually does recommend or highly rate many other products other than her own. I tried her version of the pore reducing lotion (BHA 2% Lotion) and I love it. It works for me, so I have bought several of her other things over the years and have been really pleased overall. Her stuff works for me, and at 42, I do really like the way my skin looks and feels.

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I have mixed feelings about Paula's Choice. Generally, I'll use the Beautypedia to look up products I'm interested in to see any info about the ingredients. Currently I am using a couple things (by Peter Thomas Roth and Algenist) which she rated extremely highly for their packaging and ingredients.

 

I completely ignore her own line of products because I do not, for a second, believe she'll be completely honest about how good or bad they are. I have noticed that her products are constantly featured in the Beautypedia as being 5/5. But there are tonnes of products (by various brands) with a 5/5 rating in the same category, so I opt for those. At the end of the day thought, everyone's skin is different. I used a toner by Algenist that she rated very highly, and it broke me out horribly. Just because the ingredients are great, doesn't mean your skin will love them. 

 

I do think that ingredients and research are important, and that only time can truly show the damage or benefits or skincare, so I'll be cautious when it comes to what ingredients I have in my skincare products. For information  like that, I find the Beautypedia a helpful tool. But that's all it is, a tool. It isn't a Bible by any means.

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You do know Paula started reviewing products and wrote a book long before she ever made her own products. The reviews came first because she looked at ingredients. And there are some reviews of her own products where they say it doesn't do all it claims. And she  also has every month her fave products mostly always different brands. This is why you are bashing someone and you do not even know the whole facts...just like you buy something because of how it looks or its expensive. She even says some people aren't sensitive to the fragrances. But alcohol and other things do break down your skin so why would you buy something expensive that has a lot in it. She has given good reviews to things that have very little alcohol or fragrance. So when you say anything with either of those is out, no that is not true. 

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I get what you're saying and completely agree that it can look shady af. Just to clarify a couple of things: According to their site, their skincare reviews are based primarily on research (published research - not their own). They may do some testing of skin care and they do test out makeup products, but mainly they look up the ingredients in the available research and see what the research shows. If research doesn't support the claims made by the product with the ingredients included, it doesn't get a good rating. If the product contains ingredients that have been shown by research to be irritating (such as witch hazel), it doesn't get a good rating. They also take into account the value - if the price is way too high to be justified given the expected results, it doesn't get a good rating. 

 

I get that it seems shady that all her products get the highest ratings, but here's the thing: they did all this research before designing the products, so they are specifically designed to conform to their standards of quality and adherence to research-based products. It's sort of like "teaching to the test" - they adjust their products to meet the standards of the review system, not the other way around. I realize that requires a significant amount of trust to believe though. 

 

I also get that it's a bummer to find out that some of your favorite products didn't get good ratings ("but they work for me and don't cause visible problems! Why?!"). Well, it's kind of like people finding out that smoking was bad for them back in the day. At first people said that it made them feel good, they had no ill health effects, etc., but we know now that it just takes time for the effects to show. Skin irritation is the same way. Just because alcohol or some other irritating ingredient "appears" to give you good results, doesn't mean there isn't irritation, damage, and accelerated aging happening at a cellular level. You just won't see the effects for years (if ever, since you'll never know what your skin would look like if you had't used those products). 

 

So, yeah, I get it. It's hard to get behind a review site that also sells and reviews their own products, especially when those products all score well while your favorite products don't, but I can tell you that I have found their reviews to be accurate and I'm comforted by the fact that they are based on other people's research. Also, I have been using several PC products over the last couple years and my skin has never been better. I'm repairing past damage and my skin looks better than it did when I was in high school.

 

Anyways, you do you. If you still dislike them, that's totally cool, but I did want to just clarify and add my personal experience. 

 

Cheers!

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I've recently had two patients this week mention this brand I had never heard of. The only reason I'm not compelled to fully blast this sight is because she does mostly recommend seeing your Physician before self diagnosing. Although some points are informative it is no better than researching specific symptoms on the web. The same or similar symptoms can be cause by a multitude of different things and could be one of many different skin conditions. I haven't seen anything on her sight or in her bio regarding her education and background that convinced me that this woman was a true skin care specialist. I have not seen any third party clinical studies that demonstrate the efficacy and  actual stability of the products in which she endorses. Maybe I over looked that part but in my opinion it could be just as risky and a waste of money to purchase these products as other cheaply produced concoctions and potions over the counter and online. Everyone's individual skin characteristics are different. The general information provided is just that. General. Which is why people order products online and ending up reacting to, hating it, or not needing the product at all.  Also ask yourself how does she form her opinion of each product? Through a CREDIBLE third party conducting studies to prove or disprove the claims? That would cost millions and millions of dollars. I assure you this is most likely not the situation. I'd agree that about 80 to 90 percent are garbage but after viewing reviews of products that I carry in my own office which are backed and supported by clinical independent blind studies it is apparent that she may be simply giving her opinion based on just that ... Her opinion and not Cold hard facts.  It's great to educate yourself but beware of getting hooked in before consulting with your Dermatologist or someone who Has credible training. I can't tell you how many patients make treatable conditions ten times worse for ten times longer Bc of misinformation that leads to self diagnosing and using products and creams that were a waste of time and money all along. 

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 I totally agree with @jenmol and @anneMCC. Paulas choice reviews are sooooooooooo fake. She is promoting her own stuff and trashing others. My best friend bought 2 products via the webshop and 1 product (the mask) broke her out badly. Just like jenmol said, you can buy way better products her at sephora with excellent customer care service. By the way @jenmol, thank you for sharing the paula's choice skin hydrator review, I was shocked.  Looks like an honest anti-aging blog. They also reviewed the oil absorbing mask of paulas choice, YOU MUST READ THIS BEFORE BUYING ANYTHING FROM HER! Here is the link, got 1 star out of 5! http://bestanti-aging.com/best-anti-aging-products/paulas-choice-oil-absorbing-facial-mask-review/

 

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I like using the beautypedia to get more info about various brands and products. I love that ingredients are listed. I sometimes like to know the % of (retinol) ingredient, etc.  I use it as a guide because sometimes her criteria isn't mine. She doesn't give good ratings to jar products because she says open air will break down the product. I like how she talks about an ingredient and links to published articles that shows that certain ingredient has worked. Let's face it many cosmetic brands make claims that are just false. 

 

With that being said I don't think she is always right about products. I have also used her line for several years along with a ton of others (skin care junkie, here) I have used her retinol products, AHA exfoliant and just started BHA exfoliant. I have gotten good results from them. I'm not as Impressed with her facial cleansers. They to me are basic, but she says that treatment cleansers are a waste as they just wash down the drain. But I still use them anyway (treatment cleanser)because I have gotten good results. I really like her skin recovery moisturizer with SPF. I think it's about finding out which products and ingredients work for you. 

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I have used some of her products over the last few years.  I feel like they are a good value at reasonable prices.  They have a great return/exchange policy, so if a product doesn't work for me, back it goes.  I personally like the Skin Balancing line, the 1% BHA and the weekly AHA treatment.

 

That being said, you do have to take her reviews, like all reviews, with a grain of salt.  There are some products that I love, but she gives a very low score to.  For her products, I look at the customer reviews, they don't just post the 5 star reviews, the negative ones are there too.

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 I think it's a good place to find a general overview of products but it's biased towards people with sensitive skin (which might or might not be a good thing). Just like all reviews you have to take it with a grain of salt. Everyones skin is different and you have to find what works for you, having said that it's more about researching ingredients than randomly plastering products on your face and following a hype train. I've seen a number of people just randomly trying products, not researching ingredients, not patch testing (lol I've been guilty of this before but now I know better), and still complaining that blank product broke them out. Figure out what ingredient broke you out and go from there. Learn some scientific skincare basics at least. Dont go on a wasteful blind journey of slathering your skin with whatever youtube or instagram personality tells you to. 

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Good general information.

 

But the general difference between everyone is what people prefer to use on their skin, some use "natural", some love oils, some say stay away from it - list goes on and on... her reviews are her own look on skincare.

 

What people don't realize is there is a bigger picture in every single ingredient used in products - not all glycerin is made the same - heck, not all water is the same pH...

 

Different people have different sensitivities

 

& most importantly at least I think, is the placebo effect.

 

But anyways, it's always good to know the super basics of ingredients, but know there's always a bigger picture behind everything.

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So true.  Know ingredients, learn what works for your skin and realize that what works for one doesn't work for all (there are no "best" products but there are better products).

The SR Luna craze had me confused.  Numerous people with oiler skin were trying it and getting bad results.  Avocado oil tends to be a heavier oil, is in Luna and typically is used for drier skin.  Not bad, and it does work for some with oiler skin...but it can also be slow to absorb.  I can't use the retinol in it.  Not a bad product; in fact, SR uses very high quality ingredients which many brands don't.  Just not for all.

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Paula's choice reviews give me a bad vibe. I actually want to try her BHA serum but probably won't purchase it because I think she is a self promoting unqualified reviewer. She's not a doctor or a scientist and it bothers me that she trashes anything that has fragrance.

I mean if you have sensitive skin and fragrance bothers you, then that may be a problem, but she loves to call fragrances 'irritants'. It's the dose that makes the poison, that's the medical expression and just because fragrance is irritating to one person does not mean it is for other people.

I say no thanks to her and I'll just keep enjoying and smelling good in my Chanel skin care...

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I definitely agree with you, it's the dose that makes the poison! I feel like if a product is perfumed, or if a cream is in a jar packaging/has no SPF, it's usually given a lower rating. I try to keep in mind that she has her own business and products when I read reviews because I know it's impossible for her to be completely unbiased. I do understand some of her comments though...I don't normally use Lancôme makeup remover so I was really surprised the one I used was so strongly scented!! I don't need or want to put anything perfumed on my eyes! D: yikes! 

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I don't trust her reviews at all but I use her reviews to look up ingredients. I hate that she likes to bash other brands and give all her products 5 star ratings. Though I must say that I'm currently using her 2% BHA Liquid. I was skeptical at first but the exfoliant worked well for me.

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@cyndru323 WOW it's so obvious that you just made an account to write this about Paulas choice. It also very obvious that you wrote a very long story to cover up the link of www.bestanti-aging.com , just read this:

 

http://bestanti-aging.com/best-anti-aging-products/anti-aging-skin-cream-reviews/paulas-choice-resis...

 

 

and you will never buy anything from het again. By the way, there are way better products here @sephora !

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A recent interview with Wayne Goss.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56n-3UTumEI 

 

I love her site.  You can read the product reviews and find many many brands other than hers that have a five star rating.  You could create an entire face and body skin care routine from products other than hers.  I have learned so much form her website.  I also now understand why many many products I used never really made a big difference.  I love that she posts the research for her products and you can read the research and make a more informed decision about what products to buy.  Her customer service is superb.  I recently did a test.  I emailed, used their chat feature and called them to get advise on their products.  They were very helpful.  What really impressed me is when I called they never asked for my email address so they could "keep in contact or send special offers"  and they did not try to sell me anything.  When I have called other companies it seems they always try to get you to buy immediately.  Or offer you a discount if buy when your on the phone with them.  I gave told them my skin type and concerns and what products I was interested in.  They said what I had picked was a good mix and that I really needed a daytime moisturizer with SPF which I completely agree with.  The did suggest a product that they thought I may get better results than the product I had picked.  And their suggestion was a less expensive product.  I asked what product I could leave out of the ones I picked If I had to because of budget issues.  I have done that with other companies and the response I got was "Oh you need them you really won't get results if you don't get them all"  Paul's Choice was not that way at all. And advised me of products that although they were beneficial they could be left out and If I wanted to I could add them in later.  And get a sample of that product.  They were truly great to work with.    

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What companies offer you discounts if you call them on the phone?  I would definitely be interested in that.

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WOW Paula's Choice! She is bashing all skincare products except her own products. I have tried her mask and it broke me out so bad I had to go to a dermatologist. On one blog, they have reviewed some of her products and it seems her products use the cheapest possible ingredients. Here is the link of the review http://bestanti-aging.com/best-anti-aging-products/anti-aging-skin-cream-reviews/paulas-choice-resis... 

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I just wanted to ay that the beautypedia skincare reviews are not based on their personal opinions of the products and if yoooou go unde the best category there are tons of products that get a best rating. beautypedia uses the research that is out there by scientists to determine what ingredients are bad for anyones skin (ie:fragrant plant oils, alcohol, witch hazel etc) people are always saying that the reviews are biased but they are not because beautypedia will rate two products from the same brand one best and one poor. Witch hazel is made from alcohol and alcohol is scientifically proven( not proven by cosemtics companies) by hundreds of scientists to break down collagen and cause premature aging. Your cleanser might have helped clear your acne up but it is a fact that your cleanser gets washed off your face and active ingredients are not left behind. So I think people should do their research into what beautypedia says before calling them biased or un trustworthy.

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